Community tip-off leads to drug den on Canvey

Bags of drugs – PC Lucy Bearman with cannabis found on Canvey

Bags of drugs – PC Lucy Bearman with cannabis found on Canvey

First published in South Essex news by

Police arrested three men after raiding a drug den.

Officers swooped on a house in Whernside Avenue, Canvey, after being tipped off by the community.

They found about 30 mature cannabis plants in a garage adjoining the house, along with the specialist equipment needed to grow them.

A team of six officers from Essex Police’s response and patrol team, based at Rayleigh, was diverted to the cannabis factory during a routine shift.

They arrived at about 6pm on Wednesday to find they could enter the den without forcing their way in to the property.

Inside, the officers found three men who were arrested and taken to Rayleigh police station for questioning.

They were 33-year-old and 28-year-old men, both from Canvey, and a 31-year-old man from London.

The class B drug was stuffed into enormous, brown bags, which filled the back of a patrol car.

A different team of officers quizzed the men yesterday on suspicion of cultivation of cannabis.

It is believed the plants were fully-established and ready to be pushed onto the local market.

Insp Andy Parkman, based at Rochford police station, urged people to continue giving the police tip-offs.

He said: “From our perspective, this shows it is clear that when we receive good quality, community-based intelligence, we are in a position to act.

“I’d like to stress, although we do receive an awful lot of community-based intelligence, particularly around drugs, we may not always respond immediately.

“But it forms part of a bigger picture, which enables us to plan our operations.

“I’d strongly urge the public to continue feeding us information.”

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12:14pm Mon 21 May 12

R85 says...

How can cannabis possibly be illegal when alcohol is not? Alcohol has been proven to be more harmful than cannabis! On top of this alcohol causes aggression and cannabis causes relaxation! Why one is legal and the other is not is beyond comprehension! Alcohol is a drug and nicotine is one of the most harmful substances on Earth (plus Nicotine is THE most addictive substance on Earth, full-stop). I just can’t understand why drink & extremely addictive fags are legal and this isn’t!
How can cannabis possibly be illegal when alcohol is not? Alcohol has been proven to be more harmful than cannabis! On top of this alcohol causes aggression and cannabis causes relaxation! Why one is legal and the other is not is beyond comprehension! Alcohol is a drug and nicotine is one of the most harmful substances on Earth (plus Nicotine is THE most addictive substance on Earth, full-stop). I just can’t understand why drink & extremely addictive fags are legal and this isn’t! R85
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12:33pm Mon 21 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Might be worth reading up a little on the subject R85.
Even the Dutch admit how harmful the affects of cannabis is, a report from a mental health hospital close to the mecca of legal cannabis reports 86% of its outpatients patients are cannabis related cases, it goes on to say how detatched these people have become from society due to the affects of Cannabis use, this is an admission of the patients themselves.
While I agree with your view on Alchohol and fags cannabis also has its place amongst them, making it legal would only send out a message that its ok to use when in fact it isnt.
Might be worth reading up a little on the subject R85. Even the Dutch admit how harmful the affects of cannabis is, a report from a mental health hospital close to the mecca of legal cannabis reports 86% of its outpatients patients are cannabis related cases, it goes on to say how detatched these people have become from society due to the affects of Cannabis use, this is an admission of the patients themselves. While I agree with your view on Alchohol and fags cannabis also has its place amongst them, making it legal would only send out a message that its ok to use when in fact it isnt. Mudlark1
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12:33pm Mon 21 May 12

Nebs says...

Well done the Police. Keep up the good work.
Well done the Police. Keep up the good work. Nebs
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12:42pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

R85 wrote:
How can cannabis possibly be illegal when alcohol is not? Alcohol has been proven to be more harmful than cannabis! On top of this alcohol causes aggression and cannabis causes relaxation! Why one is legal and the other is not is beyond comprehension! Alcohol is a drug and nicotine is one of the most harmful substances on Earth (plus Nicotine is THE most addictive substance on Earth, full-stop). I just can’t understand why drink & extremely addictive fags are legal and this isn’t!
Very true R85, take no notice of the old dinosaurs and scare mongerers, even the Govts own drug advisors say it's less harmful than alcohol and cigs. Half the people in this country have used cannabis and many still do but there are comparatively few who have problems. It is a simple provable fact that paracetomol, glass windows, bees, wasps, peanut butter and horse riding are all a lot more dangerous than cannabis, perhaps we ought to ban all of them!
[quote][p][bold]R85[/bold] wrote: How can cannabis possibly be illegal when alcohol is not? Alcohol has been proven to be more harmful than cannabis! On top of this alcohol causes aggression and cannabis causes relaxation! Why one is legal and the other is not is beyond comprehension! Alcohol is a drug and nicotine is one of the most harmful substances on Earth (plus Nicotine is THE most addictive substance on Earth, full-stop). I just can’t understand why drink & extremely addictive fags are legal and this isn’t![/p][/quote]Very true R85, take no notice of the old dinosaurs and scare mongerers, even the Govts own drug advisors say it's less harmful than alcohol and cigs. Half the people in this country have used cannabis and many still do but there are comparatively few who have problems. It is a simple provable fact that paracetomol, glass windows, bees, wasps, peanut butter and horse riding are all a lot more dangerous than cannabis, perhaps we ought to ban all of them! Algus
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12:46pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

ps lets get this find in perspective too, a boot load of plants will only yield half a pound or so of puff, only enough for maybe half a dozen people until their next crop so this will hardly flood the area with grass! The growers shouldn't have been arrested, they should be given a medal for service to their community, saves buying more exensive foreign imports etc.
ps lets get this find in perspective too, a boot load of plants will only yield half a pound or so of puff, only enough for maybe half a dozen people until their next crop so this will hardly flood the area with grass! The growers shouldn't have been arrested, they should be given a medal for service to their community, saves buying more exensive foreign imports etc. Algus
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1:00pm Mon 21 May 12

R85 says...

Mudlark1 wrote:
Might be worth reading up a little on the subject R85. Even the Dutch admit how harmful the affects of cannabis is, a report from a mental health hospital close to the mecca of legal cannabis reports 86% of its outpatients patients are cannabis related cases, it goes on to say how detatched these people have become from society due to the affects of Cannabis use, this is an admission of the patients themselves. While I agree with your view on Alchohol and fags cannabis also has its place amongst them, making it legal would only send out a message that its ok to use when in fact it isnt.
I didn’t say it wasn’t harmful at all, of course it’s clearly harmful!? I just said that Alcohol and fags are MORE harmful, so either alcohol and fags should be made illegal or cannabis should be legal! It is completely illogical that drink n fags are legal whilst cannabis isn’t! Thousands and thousands of times more people die from alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis, drunk accidents, drunken street attacks and countless other reasons than have ever died from cannabis –!

If you’re talking about mental health then what about the depression that alcohol withdrawal can have for some who aren’t even alcoholics (but who drink regularly).

What about the stress smokers feel when they haven’t had a fag??

All three are harmful but all three should be legal!!! This is a democracy – don’t the majority (that aren’t simply following government indoctrination) want it legal?
[quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: Might be worth reading up a little on the subject R85. Even the Dutch admit how harmful the affects of cannabis is, a report from a mental health hospital close to the mecca of legal cannabis reports 86% of its outpatients patients are cannabis related cases, it goes on to say how detatched these people have become from society due to the affects of Cannabis use, this is an admission of the patients themselves. While I agree with your view on Alchohol and fags cannabis also has its place amongst them, making it legal would only send out a message that its ok to use when in fact it isnt.[/p][/quote]I didn’t say it wasn’t harmful at all, of course it’s clearly harmful!? I just said that Alcohol and fags are MORE harmful, so either alcohol and fags should be made illegal or cannabis should be legal! It is completely illogical that drink n fags are legal whilst cannabis isn’t! Thousands and thousands of times more people die from alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis, drunk accidents, drunken street attacks and countless other reasons than have ever died from cannabis –! If you’re talking about mental health then what about the depression that alcohol withdrawal can have for some who aren’t even alcoholics (but who drink regularly). What about the stress smokers feel when they haven’t had a fag?? All three are harmful but all three should be legal!!! This is a democracy – don’t the majority (that aren’t simply following government indoctrination) want it legal? R85
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1:00pm Mon 21 May 12

doasilikey says...

The emphasis on the term "community-based intelligence" made me smile. There was once a time when the unfortunate cultivators would simply have been 'grassed up'.
The emphasis on the term "community-based intelligence" made me smile. There was once a time when the unfortunate cultivators would simply have been 'grassed up'. doasilikey
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1:44pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

R85 wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote: Might be worth reading up a little on the subject R85. Even the Dutch admit how harmful the affects of cannabis is, a report from a mental health hospital close to the mecca of legal cannabis reports 86% of its outpatients patients are cannabis related cases, it goes on to say how detatched these people have become from society due to the affects of Cannabis use, this is an admission of the patients themselves. While I agree with your view on Alchohol and fags cannabis also has its place amongst them, making it legal would only send out a message that its ok to use when in fact it isnt.
I didn’t say it wasn’t harmful at all, of course it’s clearly harmful!? I just said that Alcohol and fags are MORE harmful, so either alcohol and fags should be made illegal or cannabis should be legal! It is completely illogical that drink n fags are legal whilst cannabis isn’t! Thousands and thousands of times more people die from alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis, drunk accidents, drunken street attacks and countless other reasons than have ever died from cannabis –! If you’re talking about mental health then what about the depression that alcohol withdrawal can have for some who aren’t even alcoholics (but who drink regularly). What about the stress smokers feel when they haven’t had a fag?? All three are harmful but all three should be legal!!! This is a democracy – don’t the majority (that aren’t simply following government indoctrination) want it legal?
According to the latest social attitudes survey the majority of UK voters would now agree to legalising cannabis and the trend is for that number to rise as older people who have no experience of cannabis die off. We find much the same in other countries which is why half the countries in the civilised world have either decriminalised or do not eforce the rules, so it looks like common sense will prevail eventually, it just takes time for these old dinosaurs to go extinct.
[quote][p][bold]R85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: Might be worth reading up a little on the subject R85. Even the Dutch admit how harmful the affects of cannabis is, a report from a mental health hospital close to the mecca of legal cannabis reports 86% of its outpatients patients are cannabis related cases, it goes on to say how detatched these people have become from society due to the affects of Cannabis use, this is an admission of the patients themselves. While I agree with your view on Alchohol and fags cannabis also has its place amongst them, making it legal would only send out a message that its ok to use when in fact it isnt.[/p][/quote]I didn’t say it wasn’t harmful at all, of course it’s clearly harmful!? I just said that Alcohol and fags are MORE harmful, so either alcohol and fags should be made illegal or cannabis should be legal! It is completely illogical that drink n fags are legal whilst cannabis isn’t! Thousands and thousands of times more people die from alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis, drunk accidents, drunken street attacks and countless other reasons than have ever died from cannabis –! If you’re talking about mental health then what about the depression that alcohol withdrawal can have for some who aren’t even alcoholics (but who drink regularly). What about the stress smokers feel when they haven’t had a fag?? All three are harmful but all three should be legal!!! This is a democracy – don’t the majority (that aren’t simply following government indoctrination) want it legal?[/p][/quote]According to the latest social attitudes survey the majority of UK voters would now agree to legalising cannabis and the trend is for that number to rise as older people who have no experience of cannabis die off. We find much the same in other countries which is why half the countries in the civilised world have either decriminalised or do not eforce the rules, so it looks like common sense will prevail eventually, it just takes time for these old dinosaurs to go extinct. Algus
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1:51pm Mon 21 May 12

The Cater Wood Creeper says...

the civilised world


where's that?
[quote]the civilised world [/quote] where's that? The Cater Wood Creeper
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2:00pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:
the civilised world
where's that?
Obviously not round your house.
.
Google it.
[quote][p][bold]The Cater Wood Creeper[/bold] wrote: [quote]the civilised world [/quote] where's that?[/p][/quote]Obviously not round your house. . Google it. Algus
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2:19pm Mon 21 May 12

billericay boy says...

I wonder if they will put the plants in the Museums along with the flood sirens.
I wonder if they will put the plants in the Museums along with the flood sirens. billericay boy
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4:16pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

billericay boy wrote:
I wonder if they will put the plants in the Museums along with the flood sirens.
That's an interesting and relevant contribution ... not.
[quote][p][bold]billericay boy[/bold] wrote: I wonder if they will put the plants in the Museums along with the flood sirens.[/p][/quote]That's an interesting and relevant contribution ... not. Algus
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5:04pm Mon 21 May 12

asbo foundation says...

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth
our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth asbo foundation
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6:00pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

asbo foundation wrote:
our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth
Like you need alcohol to blah blah blah, your opinions are worthless because you know nothing whatsoever. Isn't it time you went back down the mines?
[quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth[/p][/quote]Like you need alcohol to blah blah blah, your opinions are worthless because you know nothing whatsoever. Isn't it time you went back down the mines? Algus
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6:09pm Mon 21 May 12

Last Poster says...

Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways.

Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything.
Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?
Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar? Last Poster
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6:40pm Mon 21 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Algus wrote:
asbo foundation wrote:
our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth
Like you need alcohol to blah blah blah, your opinions are worthless because you know nothing whatsoever. Isn't it time you went back down the mines?
when did i ever extol the harmless, virtuous qualities of alcohol? ah yes that'll be the hadleigh keyboard of drivel
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth[/p][/quote]Like you need alcohol to blah blah blah, your opinions are worthless because you know nothing whatsoever. Isn't it time you went back down the mines?[/p][/quote]when did i ever extol the harmless, virtuous qualities of alcohol? ah yes that'll be the hadleigh keyboard of drivel asbo foundation
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6:45pm Mon 21 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Last Poster wrote:
Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways.

Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything.
Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?
great post.
[quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?[/p][/quote]great post. asbo foundation
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7:57pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

asbo foundation wrote:
Algus wrote:
asbo foundation wrote: our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth
Like you need alcohol to blah blah blah, your opinions are worthless because you know nothing whatsoever. Isn't it time you went back down the mines?
when did i ever extol the harmless, virtuous qualities of alcohol? ah yes that'll be the hadleigh keyboard of drivel
You HAVE admitted overdoing the alcohol on here so don't deny it. Liar.
[quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth[/p][/quote]Like you need alcohol to blah blah blah, your opinions are worthless because you know nothing whatsoever. Isn't it time you went back down the mines?[/p][/quote]when did i ever extol the harmless, virtuous qualities of alcohol? ah yes that'll be the hadleigh keyboard of drivel[/p][/quote]You HAVE admitted overdoing the alcohol on here so don't deny it. Liar. Algus
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8:04pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

Last Poster wrote:
Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?
Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.
[quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?[/p][/quote]Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable. Algus
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9:04pm Mon 21 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Algus wrote:
asbo foundation wrote:
Algus wrote:
asbo foundation wrote: our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth
Like you need alcohol to blah blah blah, your opinions are worthless because you know nothing whatsoever. Isn't it time you went back down the mines?
when did i ever extol the harmless, virtuous qualities of alcohol? ah yes that'll be the hadleigh keyboard of drivel
You HAVE admitted overdoing the alcohol on here so don't deny it. Liar.
you have zero grasp of irony. you do know that's one of the side effects of dope don't you? i cracked the sober in southchurch joke after your toke and had to explain it later...naughty untruth.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth[/p][/quote]Like you need alcohol to blah blah blah, your opinions are worthless because you know nothing whatsoever. Isn't it time you went back down the mines?[/p][/quote]when did i ever extol the harmless, virtuous qualities of alcohol? ah yes that'll be the hadleigh keyboard of drivel[/p][/quote]You HAVE admitted overdoing the alcohol on here so don't deny it. Liar.[/p][/quote]you have zero grasp of irony. you do know that's one of the side effects of dope don't you? i cracked the sober in southchurch joke after your toke and had to explain it later...naughty untruth. asbo foundation
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9:09pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

You are confusing ironic with moronic.
You are confusing ironic with moronic. Algus
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9:23pm Mon 21 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Algus wrote:
Last Poster wrote:
Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?
Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.
the untruth dynasty of wasters. you told me you'd quit! so you are an addict after all lol? you're as clean as a soiled nappy. no problems except for a high propensity to bs compulsively and having the sense of humour of someone on death row.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?[/p][/quote]Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.[/p][/quote]the untruth dynasty of wasters. you told me you'd quit! so you are an addict after all lol? you're as clean as a soiled nappy. no problems except for a high propensity to bs compulsively and having the sense of humour of someone on death row. asbo foundation
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9:37pm Mon 21 May 12

asbo foundation says...

how's the granchild doing at school...bet they're not achieving their full potential? shame...clean living really is the holy grail
how's the granchild doing at school...bet they're not achieving their full potential? shame...clean living really is the holy grail asbo foundation
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9:41pm Mon 21 May 12

Algus says...

Waffle on dough brain
Waffle on dough brain Algus
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9:55pm Mon 21 May 12

asbo foundation says...

where's that loser peter reynolds these days...you used to be hand in glove?
where's that loser peter reynolds these days...you used to be hand in glove? asbo foundation
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10:06pm Mon 21 May 12

asbo foundation says...

i see he's had a spot of bother. couldn't wish it on a nicer guy. that reminds me i must give the peter reynolds wee mat a clean...it's taken a heavy splashing...unintent
ional (honest)
i see he's had a spot of bother. couldn't wish it on a nicer guy. that reminds me i must give the peter reynolds wee mat a clean...it's taken a heavy splashing...unintent ional (honest) asbo foundation
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10:17pm Mon 21 May 12

muffindamule says...

Those really are very big baggies.
Those really are very big baggies. muffindamule
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10:36pm Mon 21 May 12

asbo foundation says...

let's hope there aren't any resulting shortages in hadleigh...lol
let's hope there aren't any resulting shortages in hadleigh...lol asbo foundation
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11:55pm Mon 21 May 12

Last Poster says...

Algus wrote:
Last Poster wrote:
Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?
Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.
Well well! You defend the indefensible! You do not know my grandson neither do you know if I wear glasses. You also assume far too much! "Me and all my friends" shows how the basics of grammar escape you. I take it that's because your mind was so sharpened with the brain improving substance. Probably carrying the heavenly perfume of nectar cheerily known as "Skunk". However, the vigorous way you have attempted to defend this "New money machine" (Source of so much wealth for the underclass) leads me to suspect that you may be benefitting from your nectar in more ways than having a quiet smoke! I seem to recall that the current price of baggies of that brain adjuster is around the £12 mark. Perhaps with the financial crisis abounding, this is one item that has gone down in price? Are you not just a tad suspicious that your smart know it all attitude may be fulfilling the wishes of this right-wing succession of governments we have had for some time? When they really perceive a problem with law and order they act swift and sure (look at the "Riots" we recently underwent) the over-reaction to that, for instance: throwing a family out of their house because one child there stole a bottle of water?
If they were to legalize your addiction it would stop being an addiction and that simply would not fit their programme! Welcome to your new, smarter world, zombie!
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?[/p][/quote]Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.[/p][/quote]Well well! You defend the indefensible! You do not know my grandson neither do you know if I wear glasses. You also assume far too much! "Me and all my friends" shows how the basics of grammar escape you. I take it that's because your mind was so sharpened with the brain improving substance. Probably carrying the heavenly perfume of nectar cheerily known as "Skunk". However, the vigorous way you have attempted to defend this "New money machine" (Source of so much wealth for the underclass) leads me to suspect that you may be benefitting from your nectar in more ways than having a quiet smoke! I seem to recall that the current price of baggies of that brain adjuster is around the £12 mark. Perhaps with the financial crisis abounding, this is one item that has gone down in price? Are you not just a tad suspicious that your smart know it all attitude may be fulfilling the wishes of this right-wing succession of governments we have had for some time? When they really perceive a problem with law and order they act swift and sure (look at the "Riots" we recently underwent) the over-reaction to that, for instance: throwing a family out of their house because one child there stole a bottle of water? If they were to legalize your addiction it would stop being an addiction and that simply would not fit their programme! Welcome to your new, smarter world, zombie! Last Poster
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7:14am Tue 22 May 12

whataloadofbull says...

i am a former cannabis user (gave up 6 months ago) after smoking.it.for nearly 25 years, this will harm u in the long term mentally without any signs until it happens.

i am slowly getting back to normal and anyone who thinks it isn't doing them any harm is delusional due to using it, my mental state before i gave up waant great such as memory loss, anger if i didnt have any, withdrawing from conversations with other people (only association with other users does this).

i am glad i gave up and can see the difference in myself confindence has grown and mental ability to retain information has improved.
i am a former cannabis user (gave up 6 months ago) after smoking.it.for nearly 25 years, this will harm u in the long term mentally without any signs until it happens. i am slowly getting back to normal and anyone who thinks it isn't doing them any harm is delusional due to using it, my mental state before i gave up waant great such as memory loss, anger if i didnt have any, withdrawing from conversations with other people (only association with other users does this). i am glad i gave up and can see the difference in myself confindence has grown and mental ability to retain information has improved. whataloadofbull
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7:15am Tue 22 May 12

whataloadofbull says...

i am a former cannabis user (gave up 6 months ago) after smoking.it.for nearly 25 years, this will harm u in the long term mentally without any signs until it happens.

i am slowly getting back to normal and anyone who thinks it isn't doing them any harm is delusional due to using it, my mental state before i gave up waant great such as memory loss, anger if i didnt have any, withdrawing from conversations with other people (only association with other users does this).

i am glad i gave up and can see the difference in myself confindence has grown and mental ability to retain information has improved.
i am a former cannabis user (gave up 6 months ago) after smoking.it.for nearly 25 years, this will harm u in the long term mentally without any signs until it happens. i am slowly getting back to normal and anyone who thinks it isn't doing them any harm is delusional due to using it, my mental state before i gave up waant great such as memory loss, anger if i didnt have any, withdrawing from conversations with other people (only association with other users does this). i am glad i gave up and can see the difference in myself confindence has grown and mental ability to retain information has improved. whataloadofbull
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9:56am Tue 22 May 12

Last Poster says...

whataloadofbull wrote:
i am a former cannabis user (gave up 6 months ago) after smoking.it.for nearly 25 years, this will harm u in the long term mentally without any signs until it happens.

i am slowly getting back to normal and anyone who thinks it isn't doing them any harm is delusional due to using it, my mental state before i gave up waant great such as memory loss, anger if i didnt have any, withdrawing from conversations with other people (only association with other users does this).

i am glad i gave up and can see the difference in myself confindence has grown and mental ability to retain information has improved.
Well said mate. It is hard to argue with living proof! Now, if you can only get the youth to take notice we could all be saved!
[quote][p][bold]whataloadofbull[/bold] wrote: i am a former cannabis user (gave up 6 months ago) after smoking.it.for nearly 25 years, this will harm u in the long term mentally without any signs until it happens. i am slowly getting back to normal and anyone who thinks it isn't doing them any harm is delusional due to using it, my mental state before i gave up waant great such as memory loss, anger if i didnt have any, withdrawing from conversations with other people (only association with other users does this). i am glad i gave up and can see the difference in myself confindence has grown and mental ability to retain information has improved.[/p][/quote]Well said mate. It is hard to argue with living proof! Now, if you can only get the youth to take notice we could all be saved! Last Poster
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10:00am Tue 22 May 12

Jesslca says...

Algus wrote:
Waffle on dough brain
idiot
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Waffle on dough brain[/p][/quote]idiot Jesslca
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12:19pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

The ignorance displayed in some of these posts is mind boggling, how many times do you lot have to be told, even by the medical profession, that cannabis is not physically addictive, only psychologically addictive in the same way as some weak minded individuals get addicted to chocolate. Also, whataloadofbull yes you can overdo it in the same way that some people overdo using alcohol. Doesn't change a thing, cannabis is everywhere and has been for the last forty years and nothing any of you lot say or do will change that because prohibition, especially morally indefensible prohibition will never work. And the results of the social attitudes surveys say it all, the MAJORITY of the British public would now agree to decriminalisation and that trend is clearly increasing so its going to happen. Last Poster you are an idiot, bet pounds to peanuts your grandson is not the paragon of virtue you think he is, take off your rose tinted specs! Oh and btw, I happen to be a highly paid professional with a dozen letters after my name who has held down a very, very responsible job for decades so the odd toke has done me no harm whatsoever wheras my colleagues who prefer alcohol have clearly been damaged by their drug of choice over the same time frame. Why do you lot think most cannabis smokers choose cannabis? It's partly because cannabis does a LOT less harm than alcohol. Didn't your Mum tell you not to express your worthless opinions until you know something about the subject.
The ignorance displayed in some of these posts is mind boggling, how many times do you lot have to be told, even by the medical profession, that cannabis is not physically addictive, only psychologically addictive in the same way as some weak minded individuals get addicted to chocolate. Also, whataloadofbull yes you can overdo it in the same way that some people overdo using alcohol. Doesn't change a thing, cannabis is everywhere and has been for the last forty years and nothing any of you lot say or do will change that because prohibition, especially morally indefensible prohibition will never work. And the results of the social attitudes surveys say it all, the MAJORITY of the British public would now agree to decriminalisation and that trend is clearly increasing so its going to happen. Last Poster you are an idiot, bet pounds to peanuts your grandson is not the paragon of virtue you think he is, take off your rose tinted specs! Oh and btw, I happen to be a highly paid professional with a dozen letters after my name who has held down a very, very responsible job for decades so the odd toke has done me no harm whatsoever wheras my colleagues who prefer alcohol have clearly been damaged by their drug of choice over the same time frame. Why do you lot think most cannabis smokers choose cannabis? It's partly because cannabis does a LOT less harm than alcohol. Didn't your Mum tell you not to express your worthless opinions until you know something about the subject. Algus
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12:20pm Tue 22 May 12

doasilikey says...

Last Poster wrote:
Algus wrote:
Last Poster wrote:
Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?
Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.
Well well! You defend the indefensible! You do not know my grandson neither do you know if I wear glasses. You also assume far too much! "Me and all my friends" shows how the basics of grammar escape you. I take it that's because your mind was so sharpened with the brain improving substance. Probably carrying the heavenly perfume of nectar cheerily known as "Skunk". However, the vigorous way you have attempted to defend this "New money machine" (Source of so much wealth for the underclass) leads me to suspect that you may be benefitting from your nectar in more ways than having a quiet smoke! I seem to recall that the current price of baggies of that brain adjuster is around the £12 mark. Perhaps with the financial crisis abounding, this is one item that has gone down in price? Are you not just a tad suspicious that your smart know it all attitude may be fulfilling the wishes of this right-wing succession of governments we have had for some time? When they really perceive a problem with law and order they act swift and sure (look at the "Riots" we recently underwent) the over-reaction to that, for instance: throwing a family out of their house because one child there stole a bottle of water?
If they were to legalize your addiction it would stop being an addiction and that simply would not fit their programme! Welcome to your new, smarter world, zombie!
"You do not know my grandson...". Are you sure you do?
[quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?[/p][/quote]Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.[/p][/quote]Well well! You defend the indefensible! You do not know my grandson neither do you know if I wear glasses. You also assume far too much! "Me and all my friends" shows how the basics of grammar escape you. I take it that's because your mind was so sharpened with the brain improving substance. Probably carrying the heavenly perfume of nectar cheerily known as "Skunk". However, the vigorous way you have attempted to defend this "New money machine" (Source of so much wealth for the underclass) leads me to suspect that you may be benefitting from your nectar in more ways than having a quiet smoke! I seem to recall that the current price of baggies of that brain adjuster is around the £12 mark. Perhaps with the financial crisis abounding, this is one item that has gone down in price? Are you not just a tad suspicious that your smart know it all attitude may be fulfilling the wishes of this right-wing succession of governments we have had for some time? When they really perceive a problem with law and order they act swift and sure (look at the "Riots" we recently underwent) the over-reaction to that, for instance: throwing a family out of their house because one child there stole a bottle of water? If they were to legalize your addiction it would stop being an addiction and that simply would not fit their programme! Welcome to your new, smarter world, zombie![/p][/quote]"You do not know my grandson...". Are you sure you do? doasilikey
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12:24pm Tue 22 May 12

doasilikey says...

muffindamule wrote:
Those really are very big baggies.
Nose baggies.
[quote][p][bold]muffindamule[/bold] wrote: Those really are very big baggies.[/p][/quote]Nose baggies. doasilikey
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12:27pm Tue 22 May 12

muffindamule says...

doasilikey wrote:
muffindamule wrote:
Those really are very big baggies.
Nose baggies.
I wish !
[quote][p][bold]doasilikey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muffindamule[/bold] wrote: Those really are very big baggies.[/p][/quote]Nose baggies.[/p][/quote]I wish ! muffindamule
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1:45pm Tue 22 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Algus wrote:
Last Poster wrote:
Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?
Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.
Quote:: No-one commits crimes because of weed,
**
Try telling that to the guy who just had his rented house wrecked thanks to growers. Oh and the electricity theft to run the hydroponics, lights and ventilation fans. Then there are those that will maim, threaten, or even kill those because of turf wars over who has the right to sell weed in what area.
Add the illegal immagrants that are brought in from overseas to man these grow houses and the crime that you claim is never commited from weed starts to add up.
When you say you'd rather have your kids smoke weed rather then alcohol. Are you really that naieve?. How about you educate your brood into the dangers of drugs full stop, alcohol, weed etc rather then endorse them into smoking the weed as the better of the two evils. Do you really believe that they wont touch alcohol because they smoke the weed? the trick is to educate them of the dangers because its the right thing for any parent to do and not give them a compromise.
If you catch your kids playing with a sharp knife what do you do take it away and give them a blunt one instead? The outcome is the same if you fall on either.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?[/p][/quote]Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.[/p][/quote]Quote:: No-one commits crimes because of weed, ** Try telling that to the guy who just had his rented house wrecked thanks to growers. Oh and the electricity theft to run the hydroponics, lights and ventilation fans. Then there are those that will maim, threaten, or even kill those because of turf wars over who has the right to sell weed in what area. Add the illegal immagrants that are brought in from overseas to man these grow houses and the crime that you claim is never commited from weed starts to add up. When you say you'd rather have your kids smoke weed rather then alcohol. Are you really that naieve?. How about you educate your brood into the dangers of drugs full stop, alcohol, weed etc rather then endorse them into smoking the weed as the better of the two evils. Do you really believe that they wont touch alcohol because they smoke the weed? the trick is to educate them of the dangers because its the right thing for any parent to do and not give them a compromise. If you catch your kids playing with a sharp knife what do you do take it away and give them a blunt one instead? The outcome is the same if you fall on either. Mudlark1
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1:49pm Tue 22 May 12

Nebs says...

Algus wrote:
The ignorance displayed in some of these posts is mind boggling, how many times do you lot have to be told, even by the medical profession, that cannabis is not physically addictive, only psychologically addictive in the same way as some weak minded individuals get addicted to chocolate. Also, whataloadofbull yes you can overdo it in the same way that some people overdo using alcohol. Doesn't change a thing, cannabis is everywhere and has been for the last forty years and nothing any of you lot say or do will change that because prohibition, especially morally indefensible prohibition will never work. And the results of the social attitudes surveys say it all, the MAJORITY of the British public would now agree to decriminalisation and that trend is clearly increasing so its going to happen. Last Poster you are an idiot, bet pounds to peanuts your grandson is not the paragon of virtue you think he is, take off your rose tinted specs! Oh and btw, I happen to be a highly paid professional with a dozen letters after my name who has held down a very, very responsible job for decades so the odd toke has done me no harm whatsoever wheras my colleagues who prefer alcohol have clearly been damaged by their drug of choice over the same time frame. Why do you lot think most cannabis smokers choose cannabis? It's partly because cannabis does a LOT less harm than alcohol. Didn't your Mum tell you not to express your worthless opinions until you know something about the subject.
It will soon be a simple choice, give up cannabis or give up the car.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-politics-17
975502
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: The ignorance displayed in some of these posts is mind boggling, how many times do you lot have to be told, even by the medical profession, that cannabis is not physically addictive, only psychologically addictive in the same way as some weak minded individuals get addicted to chocolate. Also, whataloadofbull yes you can overdo it in the same way that some people overdo using alcohol. Doesn't change a thing, cannabis is everywhere and has been for the last forty years and nothing any of you lot say or do will change that because prohibition, especially morally indefensible prohibition will never work. And the results of the social attitudes surveys say it all, the MAJORITY of the British public would now agree to decriminalisation and that trend is clearly increasing so its going to happen. Last Poster you are an idiot, bet pounds to peanuts your grandson is not the paragon of virtue you think he is, take off your rose tinted specs! Oh and btw, I happen to be a highly paid professional with a dozen letters after my name who has held down a very, very responsible job for decades so the odd toke has done me no harm whatsoever wheras my colleagues who prefer alcohol have clearly been damaged by their drug of choice over the same time frame. Why do you lot think most cannabis smokers choose cannabis? It's partly because cannabis does a LOT less harm than alcohol. Didn't your Mum tell you not to express your worthless opinions until you know something about the subject.[/p][/quote]It will soon be a simple choice, give up cannabis or give up the car. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-17 975502 Nebs
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1:54pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Mudlark1 wrote:
Algus wrote:
Last Poster wrote:
Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?
Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.
Quote:: No-one commits crimes because of weed,
**
Try telling that to the guy who just had his rented house wrecked thanks to growers. Oh and the electricity theft to run the hydroponics, lights and ventilation fans. Then there are those that will maim, threaten, or even kill those because of turf wars over who has the right to sell weed in what area.
Add the illegal immagrants that are brought in from overseas to man these grow houses and the crime that you claim is never commited from weed starts to add up.
When you say you'd rather have your kids smoke weed rather then alcohol. Are you really that naieve?. How about you educate your brood into the dangers of drugs full stop, alcohol, weed etc rather then endorse them into smoking the weed as the better of the two evils. Do you really believe that they wont touch alcohol because they smoke the weed? the trick is to educate them of the dangers because its the right thing for any parent to do and not give them a compromise.
If you catch your kids playing with a sharp knife what do you do take it away and give them a blunt one instead? The outcome is the same if you fall on either.
you can't educate pork i'm afraid...
[quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?[/p][/quote]Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.[/p][/quote]Quote:: No-one commits crimes because of weed, ** Try telling that to the guy who just had his rented house wrecked thanks to growers. Oh and the electricity theft to run the hydroponics, lights and ventilation fans. Then there are those that will maim, threaten, or even kill those because of turf wars over who has the right to sell weed in what area. Add the illegal immagrants that are brought in from overseas to man these grow houses and the crime that you claim is never commited from weed starts to add up. When you say you'd rather have your kids smoke weed rather then alcohol. Are you really that naieve?. How about you educate your brood into the dangers of drugs full stop, alcohol, weed etc rather then endorse them into smoking the weed as the better of the two evils. Do you really believe that they wont touch alcohol because they smoke the weed? the trick is to educate them of the dangers because its the right thing for any parent to do and not give them a compromise. If you catch your kids playing with a sharp knife what do you do take it away and give them a blunt one instead? The outcome is the same if you fall on either.[/p][/quote]you can't educate pork i'm afraid... asbo foundation
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2:14pm Tue 22 May 12

Monkeytennis1 says...

Algus – You sound like an ageing hippy trapped in the body of a Professional person with letters after their name.
Your points hold no water whatsoever, the fact of the matter is thousands of peoples lives are ruined by cannabis either directly or as others have pointed out indirectly through crime.
Time to check your birth certificate and grow up!!
Algus – You sound like an ageing hippy trapped in the body of a Professional person with letters after their name. Your points hold no water whatsoever, the fact of the matter is thousands of peoples lives are ruined by cannabis either directly or as others have pointed out indirectly through crime. Time to check your birth certificate and grow up!! Monkeytennis1
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3:26pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.
Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons. Algus
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3:40pm Tue 22 May 12

muffindamule says...

@ Algus
"If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not."

That, Algus, is a very good point indeed !
@ Algus "If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not." That, Algus, is a very good point indeed ! muffindamule
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3:51pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

muffindamule wrote:
@ Algus "If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not." That, Algus, is a very good point indeed !
Thanks Muffin, the flip side is that our hospitals ARE filled with alcohol and nicotine casualties. Some people are just so dumb, they believe everything they read in the biased bigotted gutter press insread of going out and finding the real facts for themselves. But never fear, grass WILL be legal one day.
[quote][p][bold]muffindamule[/bold] wrote: @ Algus "If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not." That, Algus, is a very good point indeed ![/p][/quote]Thanks Muffin, the flip side is that our hospitals ARE filled with alcohol and nicotine casualties. Some people are just so dumb, they believe everything they read in the biased bigotted gutter press insread of going out and finding the real facts for themselves. But never fear, grass WILL be legal one day. Algus
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5:28pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

not in your lifetime i'm afraid. the last thing we need is a govt green light to be monged out 24/7
not in your lifetime i'm afraid. the last thing we need is a govt green light to be monged out 24/7 asbo foundation
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5:49pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

asbo foundation wrote:
not in your lifetime i'm afraid. the last thing we need is a govt green light to be monged out 24/7
Your opinion counts for nothing as you know nothing about this subject. Now be a good boy and b***** off before I get your new account deleted.
[quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: not in your lifetime i'm afraid. the last thing we need is a govt green light to be monged out 24/7[/p][/quote]Your opinion counts for nothing as you know nothing about this subject. Now be a good boy and b***** off before I get your new account deleted. Algus
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5:51pm Tue 22 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Algus wrote:
Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.
But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed.
**
I merely pointed out you are wrong!!
And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop?
There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!!

And why the need for insults because people disagree with you?
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.[/p][/quote]But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed. ** I merely pointed out you are wrong!! And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop? There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!! And why the need for insults because people disagree with you? Mudlark1
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6:14pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Algus wrote:
asbo foundation wrote:
not in your lifetime i'm afraid. the last thing we need is a govt green light to be monged out 24/7
Your opinion counts for nothing as you know nothing about this subject. Now be a good boy and b***** off before I get your new account deleted.
you didn't man up and grow a pair then? oh well you've always got your stinky, dirty addiction to fall back on.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: not in your lifetime i'm afraid. the last thing we need is a govt green light to be monged out 24/7[/p][/quote]Your opinion counts for nothing as you know nothing about this subject. Now be a good boy and b***** off before I get your new account deleted.[/p][/quote]you didn't man up and grow a pair then? oh well you've always got your stinky, dirty addiction to fall back on. asbo foundation
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6:23pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

Mudlark1 wrote:
Algus wrote: Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.
But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed. ** I merely pointed out you are wrong!! And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop? There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!! And why the need for insults because people disagree with you?
Idiot you are the one who is wrong. Go read up on prohibition, when alcohol was legalised the gangsters evaporated away to make their ill gotten gains somewhere else. And the arguments for and against legalisation are NOT equal as you would know if you actually knew anything about the subject. Sorry to tell you this but you won't learn the truth reading the Sun newspaper.
.
Haven't you seen the news Asbo? Asbos are being abolished so goodbye.
[quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.[/p][/quote]But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed. ** I merely pointed out you are wrong!! And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop? There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!! And why the need for insults because people disagree with you?[/p][/quote]Idiot you are the one who is wrong. Go read up on prohibition, when alcohol was legalised the gangsters evaporated away to make their ill gotten gains somewhere else. And the arguments for and against legalisation are NOT equal as you would know if you actually knew anything about the subject. Sorry to tell you this but you won't learn the truth reading the Sun newspaper. . Haven't you seen the news Asbo? Asbos are being abolished so goodbye. Algus
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6:27pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

That troll Asbo is without doubt the most ignorant person posting on here, keeps referring to addiction when even the Doctors say it is NOT physically addictive and the Govts own Drug Advisor says cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and nicotine. You want more proof? As previously stated our hospitals are packed full with alcohol and nicotine casualties whilst the number of cannabis casualties are miniscule. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of your moronic opinions eh?
That troll Asbo is without doubt the most ignorant person posting on here, keeps referring to addiction when even the Doctors say it is NOT physically addictive and the Govts own Drug Advisor says cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and nicotine. You want more proof? As previously stated our hospitals are packed full with alcohol and nicotine casualties whilst the number of cannabis casualties are miniscule. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of your moronic opinions eh? Algus
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6:43pm Tue 22 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Algus wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote:
Algus wrote: Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.
But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed. ** I merely pointed out you are wrong!! And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop? There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!! And why the need for insults because people disagree with you?
Idiot you are the one who is wrong. Go read up on prohibition, when alcohol was legalised the gangsters evaporated away to make their ill gotten gains somewhere else. And the arguments for and against legalisation are NOT equal as you would know if you actually knew anything about the subject. Sorry to tell you this but you won't learn the truth reading the Sun newspaper. . Haven't you seen the news Asbo? Asbos are being abolished so goodbye.
There you go again, name calling because someone has shown you to be wrong!!
**
Think what you want dear boy, definition of an idiot can be many things but one sure meaning is a parent that endorses illegal drug taking to his children because they think it will stop them from drinking alcohol. Pure Genius!! People often ask what is wrong with society these days, some would say, blame the parents, in your case I think that is fitting!!
Is there such a thing as common sense in your world of drug enhanced eutopia?
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.[/p][/quote]But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed. ** I merely pointed out you are wrong!! And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop? There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!! And why the need for insults because people disagree with you?[/p][/quote]Idiot you are the one who is wrong. Go read up on prohibition, when alcohol was legalised the gangsters evaporated away to make their ill gotten gains somewhere else. And the arguments for and against legalisation are NOT equal as you would know if you actually knew anything about the subject. Sorry to tell you this but you won't learn the truth reading the Sun newspaper. . Haven't you seen the news Asbo? Asbos are being abolished so goodbye.[/p][/quote]There you go again, name calling because someone has shown you to be wrong!! ** Think what you want dear boy, definition of an idiot can be many things but one sure meaning is a parent that endorses illegal drug taking to his children because they think it will stop them from drinking alcohol. Pure Genius!! People often ask what is wrong with society these days, some would say, blame the parents, in your case I think that is fitting!! Is there such a thing as common sense in your world of drug enhanced eutopia? Mudlark1
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6:44pm Tue 22 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Oh and I nearly forgot, letters after your name, I bet I can guess what they are!! or should be! :)
Oh and I nearly forgot, letters after your name, I bet I can guess what they are!! or should be! :) Mudlark1
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7:25pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

the addict's letters after name are ATOOPI (Another Toys Out Of Pram Incident)
the addict's letters after name are ATOOPI (Another Toys Out Of Pram Incident) asbo foundation
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7:26pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

Mudlark1 wrote:
Algus wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote:
Algus wrote: Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.
But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed. ** I merely pointed out you are wrong!! And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop? There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!! And why the need for insults because people disagree with you?
Idiot you are the one who is wrong. Go read up on prohibition, when alcohol was legalised the gangsters evaporated away to make their ill gotten gains somewhere else. And the arguments for and against legalisation are NOT equal as you would know if you actually knew anything about the subject. Sorry to tell you this but you won't learn the truth reading the Sun newspaper. . Haven't you seen the news Asbo? Asbos are being abolished so goodbye.
There you go again, name calling because someone has shown you to be wrong!! ** Think what you want dear boy, definition of an idiot can be many things but one sure meaning is a parent that endorses illegal drug taking to his children because they think it will stop them from drinking alcohol. Pure Genius!! People often ask what is wrong with society these days, some would say, blame the parents, in your case I think that is fitting!! Is there such a thing as common sense in your world of drug enhanced eutopia?
You truly are a moron Mudlark, where have you proved anything I said was wrong? Answer nowhere. And where did I say I "endorse" children using drugs? Answer nowhere. What I said was we do NOT encourage it. We tolerate it (but don't allow them to toke openly in the house) for several reasons, firstly because cannabis is considerably less harmful than alcohol (got that?). Also because all their friends also toke so we couldn't stop it even if we wanted to (btw my youngest son is 22 and doing a Masters at Uni and my eldest grandson is 19 and still at college so technically both adults ok). Truth is MOST kids have used cannabis (see the surveys) but most do not let their parents know they are doing it. Ours are more honest which means we can give them advice although truth be known most teenagers know a lot more about drugs than their parents. Most people we know with kids are in exactly the same position and we have all found that truth and honesty is a much better philosophy than sweeping it under the carpet. Bet you have a few letters after your name too, probably "can't learn, won't learn, lets play ostriches", which does not work, the only people we know who have taken that attitude have kids who went right off the rails where ours haven't. Bet you don't learn anything from this though cos you obviously get your knowledge from the Sun newspaper.
[quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.[/p][/quote]But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed. ** I merely pointed out you are wrong!! And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop? There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!! And why the need for insults because people disagree with you?[/p][/quote]Idiot you are the one who is wrong. Go read up on prohibition, when alcohol was legalised the gangsters evaporated away to make their ill gotten gains somewhere else. And the arguments for and against legalisation are NOT equal as you would know if you actually knew anything about the subject. Sorry to tell you this but you won't learn the truth reading the Sun newspaper. . Haven't you seen the news Asbo? Asbos are being abolished so goodbye.[/p][/quote]There you go again, name calling because someone has shown you to be wrong!! ** Think what you want dear boy, definition of an idiot can be many things but one sure meaning is a parent that endorses illegal drug taking to his children because they think it will stop them from drinking alcohol. Pure Genius!! People often ask what is wrong with society these days, some would say, blame the parents, in your case I think that is fitting!! Is there such a thing as common sense in your world of drug enhanced eutopia?[/p][/quote]You truly are a moron Mudlark, where have you proved anything I said was wrong? Answer nowhere. And where did I say I "endorse" children using drugs? Answer nowhere. What I said was we do NOT encourage it. We tolerate it (but don't allow them to toke openly in the house) for several reasons, firstly because cannabis is considerably less harmful than alcohol (got that?). Also because all their friends also toke so we couldn't stop it even if we wanted to (btw my youngest son is 22 and doing a Masters at Uni and my eldest grandson is 19 and still at college so technically both adults ok). Truth is MOST kids have used cannabis (see the surveys) but most do not let their parents know they are doing it. Ours are more honest which means we can give them advice although truth be known most teenagers know a lot more about drugs than their parents. Most people we know with kids are in exactly the same position and we have all found that truth and honesty is a much better philosophy than sweeping it under the carpet. Bet you have a few letters after your name too, probably "can't learn, won't learn, lets play ostriches", which does not work, the only people we know who have taken that attitude have kids who went right off the rails where ours haven't. Bet you don't learn anything from this though cos you obviously get your knowledge from the Sun newspaper. Algus
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7:32pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

Btw we are not talking about heroin or crack cocaine here, we are talking about a mild drug that has never killed anyone from an overdose in the history of the world, and as we are open and honest about it with our kids we can make sure they fully understand that they shouldn't use it to excess or drive under the influence etc. Also most of the parents we know who have the same philosophy are professional people, teachers, customs officers, architects, even medical professionals, all intelligent people. Still you obviously think you know better, Dumbo.
Btw we are not talking about heroin or crack cocaine here, we are talking about a mild drug that has never killed anyone from an overdose in the history of the world, and as we are open and honest about it with our kids we can make sure they fully understand that they shouldn't use it to excess or drive under the influence etc. Also most of the parents we know who have the same philosophy are professional people, teachers, customs officers, architects, even medical professionals, all intelligent people. Still you obviously think you know better, Dumbo. Algus
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7:35pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

asbo foundation wrote:
the addict's letters after name are ATOOPI (Another Toys Out Of Pram Incident)
Go jump off the pier you ignorant stunty little troglodite. Never seen you make a sensible contribution ever, says it all.
[quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: the addict's letters after name are ATOOPI (Another Toys Out Of Pram Incident)[/p][/quote]Go jump off the pier you ignorant stunty little troglodite. Never seen you make a sensible contribution ever, says it all. Algus
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7:52pm Tue 22 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Algus wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote:
Algus wrote:
Mudlark1 wrote:
Algus wrote: Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.
But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed. ** I merely pointed out you are wrong!! And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop? There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!! And why the need for insults because people disagree with you?
Idiot you are the one who is wrong. Go read up on prohibition, when alcohol was legalised the gangsters evaporated away to make their ill gotten gains somewhere else. And the arguments for and against legalisation are NOT equal as you would know if you actually knew anything about the subject. Sorry to tell you this but you won't learn the truth reading the Sun newspaper. . Haven't you seen the news Asbo? Asbos are being abolished so goodbye.
There you go again, name calling because someone has shown you to be wrong!! ** Think what you want dear boy, definition of an idiot can be many things but one sure meaning is a parent that endorses illegal drug taking to his children because they think it will stop them from drinking alcohol. Pure Genius!! People often ask what is wrong with society these days, some would say, blame the parents, in your case I think that is fitting!! Is there such a thing as common sense in your world of drug enhanced eutopia?
You truly are a moron Mudlark, where have you proved anything I said was wrong? Answer nowhere. And where did I say I "endorse" children using drugs? Answer nowhere. What I said was we do NOT encourage it. We tolerate it (but don't allow them to toke openly in the house) for several reasons, firstly because cannabis is considerably less harmful than alcohol (got that?). Also because all their friends also toke so we couldn't stop it even if we wanted to (btw my youngest son is 22 and doing a Masters at Uni and my eldest grandson is 19 and still at college so technically both adults ok). Truth is MOST kids have used cannabis (see the surveys) but most do not let their parents know they are doing it. Ours are more honest which means we can give them advice although truth be known most teenagers know a lot more about drugs than their parents. Most people we know with kids are in exactly the same position and we have all found that truth and honesty is a much better philosophy than sweeping it under the carpet. Bet you have a few letters after your name too, probably "can't learn, won't learn, lets play ostriches", which does not work, the only people we know who have taken that attitude have kids who went right off the rails where ours haven't. Bet you don't learn anything from this though cos you obviously get your knowledge from the Sun newspaper.
Quote: You truly are a moron Mudlark, where have you proved anything I said was wrong?
You said Quote:: No-one commits crimes because of weed:
I said they do and pointed out examples!! Come on keep up!
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Here you go, if this is not endorsing your kids in the taking of Cannabis I dont know!!
Quote:: Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER!
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A good parent would point out the dangers of using illegal substances and if you believe that smoking pot stops them from drinking then its as clear as day that you are the idiot/moron whatever you want to call it.
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Incidently are you 100% sure most kids take Cannabis? where are your facts?
You should quit now and stop embarrasing yourself with ill thought out and ill informed dribble!! You claim to have letters after your name!! Mmmm? thats obviously not in parenting is it!!
You are all that is wrong with society today. Not even able to have an adult discussion with insults. Your kids must be so proud!! NOT!!
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Most of the opinions on here are worthless because most of you lot know nothing whatsoever about cannabis. If there is any criminality connected with cannabis it is CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL! If it was legal there wouldn't be any gangsters making money out of it/ It's the same as alcohol prohibition was in the States. Oh, and Monkeytennis MILLIONS of people smoke cannabis in this country with NO HARM WHATSOEVER, even the Govts own drugs advisor admits cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and tobacco, and that's a fact! The latest extimates are that there are 7 or 8 million regular smokers and up to 30 million who have used cannabis at one time or another. If cannabis was that harmful our hospitals would be full of cannabis casulaties but they are not. Get real you morons.[/p][/quote]But you said Quote::: No-one commits crimes because of weed. ** I merely pointed out you are wrong!! And do you really think if it was made legal that those criminal acts will all of a sudden stop? There are just as many arguments against legalisation of cannabis as there is for, I don't blame you for swaying on the fores because you indulge in it so its understandable, I would suggest though you view the bigger picture and stop believing that legalising it would make all the bad things associate with it go away, NEWSFLASH! because they wont!!! And why the need for insults because people disagree with you?[/p][/quote]Idiot you are the one who is wrong. Go read up on prohibition, when alcohol was legalised the gangsters evaporated away to make their ill gotten gains somewhere else. And the arguments for and against legalisation are NOT equal as you would know if you actually knew anything about the subject. Sorry to tell you this but you won't learn the truth reading the Sun newspaper. . Haven't you seen the news Asbo? Asbos are being abolished so goodbye.[/p][/quote]There you go again, name calling because someone has shown you to be wrong!! ** Think what you want dear boy, definition of an idiot can be many things but one sure meaning is a parent that endorses illegal drug taking to his children because they think it will stop them from drinking alcohol. Pure Genius!! People often ask what is wrong with society these days, some would say, blame the parents, in your case I think that is fitting!! Is there such a thing as common sense in your world of drug enhanced eutopia?[/p][/quote]You truly are a moron Mudlark, where have you proved anything I said was wrong? Answer nowhere. And where did I say I "endorse" children using drugs? Answer nowhere. What I said was we do NOT encourage it. We tolerate it (but don't allow them to toke openly in the house) for several reasons, firstly because cannabis is considerably less harmful than alcohol (got that?). Also because all their friends also toke so we couldn't stop it even if we wanted to (btw my youngest son is 22 and doing a Masters at Uni and my eldest grandson is 19 and still at college so technically both adults ok). Truth is MOST kids have used cannabis (see the surveys) but most do not let their parents know they are doing it. Ours are more honest which means we can give them advice although truth be known most teenagers know a lot more about drugs than their parents. Most people we know with kids are in exactly the same position and we have all found that truth and honesty is a much better philosophy than sweeping it under the carpet. Bet you have a few letters after your name too, probably "can't learn, won't learn, lets play ostriches", which does not work, the only people we know who have taken that attitude have kids who went right off the rails where ours haven't. Bet you don't learn anything from this though cos you obviously get your knowledge from the Sun newspaper.[/p][/quote]Quote: You truly are a moron Mudlark, where have you proved anything I said was wrong? You said Quote:: No-one commits crimes because of weed: I said they do and pointed out examples!! Come on keep up! ** Here you go, if this is not endorsing your kids in the taking of Cannabis I dont know!! Quote:: Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! ** A good parent would point out the dangers of using illegal substances and if you believe that smoking pot stops them from drinking then its as clear as day that you are the idiot/moron whatever you want to call it. ** Incidently are you 100% sure most kids take Cannabis? where are your facts? You should quit now and stop embarrasing yourself with ill thought out and ill informed dribble!! You claim to have letters after your name!! Mmmm? thats obviously not in parenting is it!! You are all that is wrong with society today. Not even able to have an adult discussion with insults. Your kids must be so proud!! NOT!! Mudlark1
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7:55pm Tue 22 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

P.S who looks after your grankids while your so called grown up children are at Uni or College??? Please dont tell me its you!!
P.S who looks after your grankids while your so called grown up children are at Uni or College??? Please dont tell me its you!! Mudlark1
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8:04pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

Oh boy you are some imbecile, you get it all wrong.
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The only crimes around cannabis are caused by the fact it is illegal! No-one gets muggesd by a cannabis user because they need a weed fix, Laughable.
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I have already said we DO point out the dangers of cannabis. And if you knew anything about this you would know that tokers tend NOT to drink and vice versa. Got that?
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I never said 100% of kids toke did I? However, all surveys since the 60s have said the majority of kids have tried cannabis, but thats only the ones who admit it. Don't you think some would lie and say they dont? Incidentally if you had been smart enough to go to Uni yourself you would know that it is almost a traditional rite of passage, they all do it at Uni matey, even Clinton and Blair. It was like that in my day and its still like that.
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If you don't like being insulted then stop saying ridiculous things, you know nothing but think you know it all. Moron. And actually I am regarded as a model parent by all who know me whether you believe it or not. No piunt continuing this with a bigot who is not capable of learning the truth.
Oh boy you are some imbecile, you get it all wrong. . The only crimes around cannabis are caused by the fact it is illegal! No-one gets muggesd by a cannabis user because they need a weed fix, Laughable. . I have already said we DO point out the dangers of cannabis. And if you knew anything about this you would know that tokers tend NOT to drink and vice versa. Got that? . I never said 100% of kids toke did I? However, all surveys since the 60s have said the majority of kids have tried cannabis, but thats only the ones who admit it. Don't you think some would lie and say they dont? Incidentally if you had been smart enough to go to Uni yourself you would know that it is almost a traditional rite of passage, they all do it at Uni matey, even Clinton and Blair. It was like that in my day and its still like that. . If you don't like being insulted then stop saying ridiculous things, you know nothing but think you know it all. Moron. And actually I am regarded as a model parent by all who know me whether you believe it or not. No piunt continuing this with a bigot who is not capable of learning the truth. Algus
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8:06pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

Oops typo, piunt should have been point.
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And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read?
Oops typo, piunt should have been point. . And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read? Algus
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8:08pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

You clearly know nothing about kids. If you are a parent I would bet money your kids do the lot just to spite you. Tw@t.
You clearly know nothing about kids. If you are a parent I would bet money your kids do the lot just to spite you. Tw@t. Algus
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9:06pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Algus wrote:
Oops typo, piunt should have been point.
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And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read?
lol ATOOPI. looks like you were unable to keep it in your pants untruth. excess demon seed? time to give up the cheap thrills grandad. the midlife crisis should be furry dice.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Oops typo, piunt should have been point. . And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read?[/p][/quote]lol ATOOPI. looks like you were unable to keep it in your pants untruth. excess demon seed? time to give up the cheap thrills grandad. the midlife crisis should be furry dice. asbo foundation
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9:19pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

asbo foundation wrote:
Algus wrote: Oops typo, piunt should have been point. . And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read?
lol ATOOPI. looks like you were unable to keep it in your pants untruth. excess demon seed? time to give up the cheap thrills grandad. the midlife crisis should be furry dice.
Do you ever write anything sensible Asbo? And wtf are you talking about? Your drivel makes no sense whatsoever, except to you of course in your tiny little mind. Give it up lame brain.
[quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Oops typo, piunt should have been point. . And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read?[/p][/quote]lol ATOOPI. looks like you were unable to keep it in your pants untruth. excess demon seed? time to give up the cheap thrills grandad. the midlife crisis should be furry dice.[/p][/quote]Do you ever write anything sensible Asbo? And wtf are you talking about? Your drivel makes no sense whatsoever, except to you of course in your tiny little mind. Give it up lame brain. Algus
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9:27pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

Nothing more from mudlark? I would guess from previous posts, and the time you disappeared, that you might be a Councillor. If so you have met me and shook my hand as I have often been an 'expert witness' in the chambers at the Kiln Road Council offices, and others. Ah the delicious irony of it. Then again it's a bit frightening that our local decisions are being made by people with your level of bigotry and a complete lack of mental prowess. Hum.
Nothing more from mudlark? I would guess from previous posts, and the time you disappeared, that you might be a Councillor. If so you have met me and shook my hand as I have often been an 'expert witness' in the chambers at the Kiln Road Council offices, and others. Ah the delicious irony of it. Then again it's a bit frightening that our local decisions are being made by people with your level of bigotry and a complete lack of mental prowess. Hum. Algus
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9:30pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Algus wrote:
Oh boy you are some imbecile, you get it all wrong.
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The only crimes around cannabis are caused by the fact it is illegal! No-one gets muggesd by a cannabis user because they need a weed fix, Laughable.
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I have already said we DO point out the dangers of cannabis. And if you knew anything about this you would know that tokers tend NOT to drink and vice versa. Got that?
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I never said 100% of kids toke did I? However, all surveys since the 60s have said the majority of kids have tried cannabis, but thats only the ones who admit it. Don't you think some would lie and say they dont? Incidentally if you had been smart enough to go to Uni yourself you would know that it is almost a traditional rite of passage, they all do it at Uni matey, even Clinton and Blair. It was like that in my day and its still like that.
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If you don't like being insulted then stop saying ridiculous things, you know nothing but think you know it all. Moron. And actually I am regarded as a model parent by all who know me whether you believe it or not. No piunt continuing this with a bigot who is not capable of learning the truth.
lol "bigot" the essential vocab of the poor, oppressed cannabis dependant (for "dependant" i prefer the term "waster" but leave the choice up to you untruth)
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Oh boy you are some imbecile, you get it all wrong. . The only crimes around cannabis are caused by the fact it is illegal! No-one gets muggesd by a cannabis user because they need a weed fix, Laughable. . I have already said we DO point out the dangers of cannabis. And if you knew anything about this you would know that tokers tend NOT to drink and vice versa. Got that? . I never said 100% of kids toke did I? However, all surveys since the 60s have said the majority of kids have tried cannabis, but thats only the ones who admit it. Don't you think some would lie and say they dont? Incidentally if you had been smart enough to go to Uni yourself you would know that it is almost a traditional rite of passage, they all do it at Uni matey, even Clinton and Blair. It was like that in my day and its still like that. . If you don't like being insulted then stop saying ridiculous things, you know nothing but think you know it all. Moron. And actually I am regarded as a model parent by all who know me whether you believe it or not. No piunt continuing this with a bigot who is not capable of learning the truth.[/p][/quote]lol "bigot" the essential vocab of the poor, oppressed cannabis dependant (for "dependant" i prefer the term "waster" but leave the choice up to you untruth) asbo foundation
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9:30pm Tue 22 May 12

Nebs says...

Algus wrote:
asbo foundation wrote:
Algus wrote: Oops typo, piunt should have been point. . And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read?
lol ATOOPI. looks like you were unable to keep it in your pants untruth. excess demon seed? time to give up the cheap thrills grandad. the midlife crisis should be furry dice.
Do you ever write anything sensible Asbo? And wtf are you talking about? Your drivel makes no sense whatsoever, except to you of course in your tiny little mind. Give it up lame brain.
I understood what he meant. But then again I am not spaced out on illegal drugs.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Oops typo, piunt should have been point. . And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read?[/p][/quote]lol ATOOPI. looks like you were unable to keep it in your pants untruth. excess demon seed? time to give up the cheap thrills grandad. the midlife crisis should be furry dice.[/p][/quote]Do you ever write anything sensible Asbo? And wtf are you talking about? Your drivel makes no sense whatsoever, except to you of course in your tiny little mind. Give it up lame brain.[/p][/quote]I understood what he meant. But then again I am not spaced out on illegal drugs. Nebs
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9:35pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Algus wrote:
Nothing more from mudlark? I would guess from previous posts, and the time you disappeared, that you might be a Councillor. If so you have met me and shook my hand as I have often been an 'expert witness' in the chambers at the Kiln Road Council offices, and others. Ah the delicious irony of it. Then again it's a bit frightening that our local decisions are being made by people with your level of bigotry and a complete lack of mental prowess. Hum.
the church of asbo says...
7:26pm Wed 16 May 12

E-Types wrote:

Algus wrote:
I'd tell you to take your finger out of the electric socket Sash Bore Buoy but you are such a poor excuse for a human being that you might as well leave your finger in and do us all a favbour.

Here here, perhaps we can pay to have a surge of electric in the area.

oh the delicious irony. mincer have you met excitation? you have just agreed with excitation. rofl,

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i see you're fluent asbo these days.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Nothing more from mudlark? I would guess from previous posts, and the time you disappeared, that you might be a Councillor. If so you have met me and shook my hand as I have often been an 'expert witness' in the chambers at the Kiln Road Council offices, and others. Ah the delicious irony of it. Then again it's a bit frightening that our local decisions are being made by people with your level of bigotry and a complete lack of mental prowess. Hum.[/p][/quote]the church of asbo says... 7:26pm Wed 16 May 12 E-Types wrote: Algus wrote: I'd tell you to take your finger out of the electric socket Sash Bore Buoy but you are such a poor excuse for a human being that you might as well leave your finger in and do us all a favbour. Here here, perhaps we can pay to have a surge of electric in the area. oh the delicious irony. mincer have you met excitation? you have just agreed with excitation. rofl, . i see you're fluent asbo these days. asbo foundation
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9:39pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Algus wrote:
asbo foundation wrote:
Algus wrote: Oops typo, piunt should have been point. . And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read?
lol ATOOPI. looks like you were unable to keep it in your pants untruth. excess demon seed? time to give up the cheap thrills grandad. the midlife crisis should be furry dice.
Do you ever write anything sensible Asbo? And wtf are you talking about? Your drivel makes no sense whatsoever, except to you of course in your tiny little mind. Give it up lame brain.
from the HKOD
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asbo foundation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Oops typo, piunt should have been point. . And my grandson is 19 and doing an extra year at college you tw@t. Can't you read?[/p][/quote]lol ATOOPI. looks like you were unable to keep it in your pants untruth. excess demon seed? time to give up the cheap thrills grandad. the midlife crisis should be furry dice.[/p][/quote]Do you ever write anything sensible Asbo? And wtf are you talking about? Your drivel makes no sense whatsoever, except to you of course in your tiny little mind. Give it up lame brain.[/p][/quote]from the HKOD asbo foundation
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9:43pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

the hadleigh keyboard of drivel
the hadleigh keyboard of drivel asbo foundation
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9:48pm Tue 22 May 12

Last Poster says...

Algus you have proved to be rude, insensitive, morally moronic and you obviously support the use of this drug a little to vehemently.
You obviously have a hidden agenda in encouraging the sale and use of illegal drugs which leads me to believe you are , in fact, a supplier, the worse kind of morally moronic individual there is.
You claim to have a string of letters behind your name. I only have three (M.Sc.) which is an engineering qualification. Kindly prove your worth by quoting your letters and place and year of your qualifications so all the "know-nothings" (your insults, not mine) on here may best judge the sincerity of your remarks.
To be honest, you actually come over a tad familiar. With your ready insults to the respectable people on here and your quick temper, plus your tendency to repeat what you seem to think are clever quips (E.G. The rose-tinted glasses misquote) I do have the feeling you are either "Boy-Racer" or his clone. Whatever, you have an arrogant attitude which is seen often on the young men(?) who know absolutely everything about absolutely nothing. So come on, expert, prove your worth, put up or shut up!
Algus you have proved to be rude, insensitive, morally moronic and you obviously support the use of this drug a little to vehemently. You obviously have a hidden agenda in encouraging the sale and use of illegal drugs which leads me to believe you are , in fact, a supplier, the worse kind of morally moronic individual there is. You claim to have a string of letters behind your name. I only have three (M.Sc.) which is an engineering qualification. Kindly prove your worth by quoting your letters and place and year of your qualifications so all the "know-nothings" (your insults, not mine) on here may best judge the sincerity of your remarks. To be honest, you actually come over a tad familiar. With your ready insults to the respectable people on here and your quick temper, plus your tendency to repeat what you seem to think are clever quips (E.G. The rose-tinted glasses misquote) I do have the feeling you are either "Boy-Racer" or his clone. Whatever, you have an arrogant attitude which is seen often on the young men(?) who know absolutely everything about absolutely nothing. So come on, expert, prove your worth, put up or shut up! Last Poster
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9:56pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Last Poster wrote:
Algus you have proved to be rude, insensitive, morally moronic and you obviously support the use of this drug a little to vehemently.
You obviously have a hidden agenda in encouraging the sale and use of illegal drugs which leads me to believe you are , in fact, a supplier, the worse kind of morally moronic individual there is.
You claim to have a string of letters behind your name. I only have three (M.Sc.) which is an engineering qualification. Kindly prove your worth by quoting your letters and place and year of your qualifications so all the "know-nothings" (your insults, not mine) on here may best judge the sincerity of your remarks.
To be honest, you actually come over a tad familiar. With your ready insults to the respectable people on here and your quick temper, plus your tendency to repeat what you seem to think are clever quips (E.G. The rose-tinted glasses misquote) I do have the feeling you are either "Boy-Racer" or his clone. Whatever, you have an arrogant attitude which is seen often on the young men(?) who know absolutely everything about absolutely nothing. So come on, expert, prove your worth, put up or shut up!
high five last poster. oh the delicious irony... rose tinted glasses is a sash bore buoy term and i can absolutely confirm sash bore buoy and algus have never been seen in the same room together!
[quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Algus you have proved to be rude, insensitive, morally moronic and you obviously support the use of this drug a little to vehemently. You obviously have a hidden agenda in encouraging the sale and use of illegal drugs which leads me to believe you are , in fact, a supplier, the worse kind of morally moronic individual there is. You claim to have a string of letters behind your name. I only have three (M.Sc.) which is an engineering qualification. Kindly prove your worth by quoting your letters and place and year of your qualifications so all the "know-nothings" (your insults, not mine) on here may best judge the sincerity of your remarks. To be honest, you actually come over a tad familiar. With your ready insults to the respectable people on here and your quick temper, plus your tendency to repeat what you seem to think are clever quips (E.G. The rose-tinted glasses misquote) I do have the feeling you are either "Boy-Racer" or his clone. Whatever, you have an arrogant attitude which is seen often on the young men(?) who know absolutely everything about absolutely nothing. So come on, expert, prove your worth, put up or shut up![/p][/quote]high five last poster. oh the delicious irony... rose tinted glasses is a sash bore buoy term and i can absolutely confirm sash bore buoy and algus have never been seen in the same room together! asbo foundation
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10:00pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

LastPoster, your post is full of assumptions, all wrong, not the mark of a man with an MSc. And you can't have an MSc on it's own so I don't believe you have one. And if you think I am going to quote all my academic and professional qualifications on here you have another thing coming as all you will do is accuse me of making it up. Bottom line is that I do not suffer fools gladly and stories about cannabis are packed with comments from morons who have no experience or knowledge of the subject at all beyond the Sun's opinion page. All I will tell you is that I spent eight years at Uni in all, you work it ou for yourself. Oh and yes of course I am a thick dope dealer, not. Cretin.
LastPoster, your post is full of assumptions, all wrong, not the mark of a man with an MSc. And you can't have an MSc on it's own so I don't believe you have one. And if you think I am going to quote all my academic and professional qualifications on here you have another thing coming as all you will do is accuse me of making it up. Bottom line is that I do not suffer fools gladly and stories about cannabis are packed with comments from morons who have no experience or knowledge of the subject at all beyond the Sun's opinion page. All I will tell you is that I spent eight years at Uni in all, you work it ou for yourself. Oh and yes of course I am a thick dope dealer, not. Cretin. Algus
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10:02pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

"rose tinted glasses is a sash bore buoy term" oh sorree, not.
"rose tinted glasses is a sash bore buoy term" oh sorree, not. Algus
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10:07pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

the church of asbo says...
7:56pm Sat 12 May 12
there are plenty of youth clubs but none where the kids can smoke weed or drink alcopops so the poor old church has to suffer the pitsea and benfleet trash. take the rose tinted glasses off for a second.
the church of asbo says... 7:56pm Sat 12 May 12 there are plenty of youth clubs but none where the kids can smoke weed or drink alcopops so the poor old church has to suffer the pitsea and benfleet trash. take the rose tinted glasses off for a second. asbo foundation
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10:12pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

You talk total rubbish Asbo, try writing plain English
You talk total rubbish Asbo, try writing plain English Algus
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10:22pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

you gotta do better than that! when on the back foot smack it through the covers don't play a defensive, limp wristed downward prod. are you related to chris tavare?
you gotta do better than that! when on the back foot smack it through the covers don't play a defensive, limp wristed downward prod. are you related to chris tavare? asbo foundation
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10:32pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

shoebury asbo says...
9:20pm Fri 15 Jul 11
come on untruth, don't quit now. you're not a quitter lol
shoebury asbo says... 9:20pm Fri 15 Jul 11 come on untruth, don't quit now. you're not a quitter lol asbo foundation
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10:49pm Tue 22 May 12

Algus says...

Go away, trying to watch Iain Stewart with the wife.
Go away, trying to watch Iain Stewart with the wife. Algus
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10:57pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

still on for lunch on friday untruth...your shout this week?
still on for lunch on friday untruth...your shout this week? asbo foundation
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10:59pm Tue 22 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Algus wrote:
Go away, trying to watch Iain Stewart with the wife.
second or third? (wifey)
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Go away, trying to watch Iain Stewart with the wife.[/p][/quote]second or third? (wifey) asbo foundation
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11:19pm Tue 22 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Algus wrote:
Oh boy you are some imbecile, you get it all wrong. . The only crimes around cannabis are caused by the fact it is illegal! No-one gets muggesd by a cannabis user because they need a weed fix, Laughable. . I have already said we DO point out the dangers of cannabis. And if you knew anything about this you would know that tokers tend NOT to drink and vice versa. Got that? . I never said 100% of kids toke did I? However, all surveys since the 60s have said the majority of kids have tried cannabis, but thats only the ones who admit it. Don't you think some would lie and say they dont? Incidentally if you had been smart enough to go to Uni yourself you would know that it is almost a traditional rite of passage, they all do it at Uni matey, even Clinton and Blair. It was like that in my day and its still like that. . If you don't like being insulted then stop saying ridiculous things, you know nothing but think you know it all. Moron. And actually I am regarded as a model parent by all who know me whether you believe it or not. No piunt continuing this with a bigot who is not capable of learning the truth.
Quote: The only crimes around cannabis are caused by the fact it is illegal! No-one gets muggesd by a cannabis user because they need a weed fix, Laughable.
** so your definition of crime is muggings? see what i mean by looking at the bigger picture, if you had then you would realise that what I explained to you earlier are all crimes and all as a result of Cannabis, which makes you WRONG and that your statement that no one commits crime becasue of weed is flawed somewhat!! infact flawed completely.
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Tokers tend not to drink!! oh really and you base your facts from where exactly, I know maybe you have a big family and you base all your stats around that, you know like 100 people surveyed, (but they all happen to be pot smokers in your family).
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I never said 100% of kids toke did I.. I never said you did?
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all surveys since the 60s have said the majority of kids have tried cannabis. PMSL at this one. You mean all surveys that you decided to look up, thats not ALL surveys is it.
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Incidentally if you had been smart enough to go to Uni yourself you would know that it is almost a traditional rite of passage, they all do it at Uni matey. ** Sorry no didnt go to Uni was busy running my business ensuring these pot smoking uni goers have a job when they get out .
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If you don't like being insulted then stop saying ridiculous things ** Pot and Kettle, besides all you do is make yourself look even more stupid and unable to hold a proper adult conversation on the subject.**
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you know nothing but think you know it all. ** Your the one claiming to know it all not me!!
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I am regarded as a model parent by all who know me whether you believe it or not,. ** NOT!!
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Not sure how you concluded I am a Councillor? but as your so good at working people out then I'll leave you to it. **
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You seem to be quoting alot of articles that you claim I read in the SUN newspaper, how can that be? More of a Times and S/Times man myself, but the SUN has given me an exceptional living over the years, so wont take your so obviously highly educated statement as an insult.
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[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Oh boy you are some imbecile, you get it all wrong. . The only crimes around cannabis are caused by the fact it is illegal! No-one gets muggesd by a cannabis user because they need a weed fix, Laughable. . I have already said we DO point out the dangers of cannabis. And if you knew anything about this you would know that tokers tend NOT to drink and vice versa. Got that? . I never said 100% of kids toke did I? However, all surveys since the 60s have said the majority of kids have tried cannabis, but thats only the ones who admit it. Don't you think some would lie and say they dont? Incidentally if you had been smart enough to go to Uni yourself you would know that it is almost a traditional rite of passage, they all do it at Uni matey, even Clinton and Blair. It was like that in my day and its still like that. . If you don't like being insulted then stop saying ridiculous things, you know nothing but think you know it all. Moron. And actually I am regarded as a model parent by all who know me whether you believe it or not. No piunt continuing this with a bigot who is not capable of learning the truth.[/p][/quote]Quote: The only crimes around cannabis are caused by the fact it is illegal! No-one gets muggesd by a cannabis user because they need a weed fix, Laughable. ** so your definition of crime is muggings? see what i mean by looking at the bigger picture, if you had then you would realise that what I explained to you earlier are all crimes and all as a result of Cannabis, which makes you WRONG and that your statement that no one commits crime becasue of weed is flawed somewhat!! infact flawed completely. ** Tokers tend not to drink!! oh really and you base your facts from where exactly, I know maybe you have a big family and you base all your stats around that, you know like 100 people surveyed, (but they all happen to be pot smokers in your family). ** I never said 100% of kids toke did I.. I never said you did? ** all surveys since the 60s have said the majority of kids have tried cannabis. PMSL at this one. You mean all surveys that you decided to look up, thats not ALL surveys is it. ** Incidentally if you had been smart enough to go to Uni yourself you would know that it is almost a traditional rite of passage, they all do it at Uni matey. ** Sorry no didnt go to Uni was busy running my business ensuring these pot smoking uni goers have a job when they get out . ** If you don't like being insulted then stop saying ridiculous things ** Pot and Kettle, besides all you do is make yourself look even more stupid and unable to hold a proper adult conversation on the subject.** ** you know nothing but think you know it all. ** Your the one claiming to know it all not me!! ** I am regarded as a model parent by all who know me whether you believe it or not,. ** NOT!! ** Not sure how you concluded I am a Councillor? but as your so good at working people out then I'll leave you to it. ** ** You seem to be quoting alot of articles that you claim I read in the SUN newspaper, how can that be? More of a Times and S/Times man myself, but the SUN has given me an exceptional living over the years, so wont take your so obviously highly educated statement as an insult. ** Mudlark1
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11:30pm Tue 22 May 12

Last Poster says...

Algus, My qualification is doctoral.
You are in a fantasy world although you have no knowledge of this as you are also befuddled by your addiction.
Do you never stop to wonder why, if it is not addictive, you spend so much of your time abusing it and all your fellow human beings? You are the classic alcoholic, you can stop when you want to you just choose to continue. You can get help, even if you think that without your "mothers little helper" life would not be worth living. As for you denying you sell the stuff so vehemently why? You would have us believe you think it is perfectly OK, yet you are so reticent to admit your main qualification in life is "pusher, without the courage of its convictions". Leave our children alone and get a real job with a little honour, instead of one that is permanently destroying people's lives to satiate your greed for money. What a nasty piece of work you have proved to be here and you don't even know it do you? Drug abuser!
Algus, My qualification is doctoral. You are in a fantasy world although you have no knowledge of this as you are also befuddled by your addiction. Do you never stop to wonder why, if it is not addictive, you spend so much of your time abusing it and all your fellow human beings? You are the classic alcoholic, you can stop when you want to you just choose to continue. You can get help, even if you think that without your "mothers little helper" life would not be worth living. As for you denying you sell the stuff so vehemently why? You would have us believe you think it is perfectly OK, yet you are so reticent to admit your main qualification in life is "pusher, without the courage of its convictions". Leave our children alone and get a real job with a little honour, instead of one that is permanently destroying people's lives to satiate your greed for money. What a nasty piece of work you have proved to be here and you don't even know it do you? Drug abuser! Last Poster
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12:34am Wed 23 May 12

Algus says...

Blimey, you lot have been busy, don't you have anything better to do?
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OK Asbo see you Friday, and first and only wifey.
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Mudlark the only real crime is caused by the fact that its illegal, what cant you understand about that?
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"Tokers tend not to drink!! oh really and you base your facts from where exactly" ... forty years experience and the fact that the two are completely different, dont go together at all, like pi55ing in the wind, proves you know nothing cos thats elementary.
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The official surveys, done by HM Gov every year with enormous sample, as you'd know if you paid attention as its usually reported on the national news. More proof etc.
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Didn't go to Uni. Says it all.
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Don't care what you say about my parenting skills, my family is top notch matey, all going to Uni, no probs, and many people have said I should have been a teacher as I get on so well with the kids and their friends, even coach the kids at * sports club where my youngest grandson plays (yes been CRB checked) so put that in your pipe etc.
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Last Poster you really are off with the fairies, first you say you have an MSc then you claim to have a Doctorate, both very different things, you just proved you are also a liar. So how many years did you have to spend at Uni for your mythical qualifications?
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As for the rest of your drivel, I don't actually toke much these days, as Asbo would tell you, just the odd social spliff at weekends.
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No point chatting to any of you lot any more because you are all complete bigots, you know nothing whatsoever about cannabis yet you think you know it all, you are fixated with the idea that drugs are terrible even though you probably have the odd glass of wine and the odd cup of coffee yourself. That makes you ignorant, hypocritical bigots and there is no point talking to an ignorant hypocritical bigot. None.
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Just remember 7 or 8 milion people toke in the UK, there are probably tokers in your street but you'd never know it, you have probably talked to loads of people who have just had a spliff but you would never know that either cos we don't turn orange or go comatose after a joint. Ha ha ha!
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See you Friday Asbo.
Blimey, you lot have been busy, don't you have anything better to do? . OK Asbo see you Friday, and first and only wifey. . Mudlark the only real crime is caused by the fact that its illegal, what cant you understand about that? . "Tokers tend not to drink!! oh really and you base your facts from where exactly" ... forty years experience and the fact that the two are completely different, dont go together at all, like pi55ing in the wind, proves you know nothing cos thats elementary. . The official surveys, done by HM Gov every year with enormous sample, as you'd know if you paid attention as its usually reported on the national news. More proof etc. . Didn't go to Uni. Says it all. . Don't care what you say about my parenting skills, my family is top notch matey, all going to Uni, no probs, and many people have said I should have been a teacher as I get on so well with the kids and their friends, even coach the kids at * sports club where my youngest grandson plays (yes been CRB checked) so put that in your pipe etc. . Last Poster you really are off with the fairies, first you say you have an MSc then you claim to have a Doctorate, both very different things, you just proved you are also a liar. So how many years did you have to spend at Uni for your mythical qualifications? . As for the rest of your drivel, I don't actually toke much these days, as Asbo would tell you, just the odd social spliff at weekends. . No point chatting to any of you lot any more because you are all complete bigots, you know nothing whatsoever about cannabis yet you think you know it all, you are fixated with the idea that drugs are terrible even though you probably have the odd glass of wine and the odd cup of coffee yourself. That makes you ignorant, hypocritical bigots and there is no point talking to an ignorant hypocritical bigot. None. . Just remember 7 or 8 milion people toke in the UK, there are probably tokers in your street but you'd never know it, you have probably talked to loads of people who have just had a spliff but you would never know that either cos we don't turn orange or go comatose after a joint. Ha ha ha! . See you Friday Asbo. Algus
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1:07am Wed 23 May 12

essexlad08 says...

Honestly all these pro cannabis posters on here, your only for it because you smoke it and until it affects you or your family in a negative way you will continue to harp on with pointless quotes that are created by other weed users, at the end of the day it's illegal the idiots growing it know it's illegal when they set up these grow houses so let them get nicked and unfortunately we all know they will just get a slap on the wrist and have another load of plants on the go in a few weeks time, I would like to see them get some real punishment that might actually deter them from breaking the law again, I have seen the negative effects of this drug and also know a victim of a violent crime involving a knife that was committed because to young lads wanted money to buy weed. These wasters need to go and get a legit job instead of growing weed and affecting peoples family lives. The only ignorance on this thread is by all the cannabis users who come on here to try and justify using it, it's illegal face it.
Honestly all these pro cannabis posters on here, your only for it because you smoke it and until it affects you or your family in a negative way you will continue to harp on with pointless quotes that are created by other weed users, at the end of the day it's illegal the idiots growing it know it's illegal when they set up these grow houses so let them get nicked and unfortunately we all know they will just get a slap on the wrist and have another load of plants on the go in a few weeks time, I would like to see them get some real punishment that might actually deter them from breaking the law again, I have seen the negative effects of this drug and also know a victim of a violent crime involving a knife that was committed because to young lads wanted money to buy weed. These wasters need to go and get a legit job instead of growing weed and affecting peoples family lives. The only ignorance on this thread is by all the cannabis users who come on here to try and justify using it, it's illegal face it. essexlad08
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1:10am Wed 23 May 12

essexlad08 says...

Also stop comparing cannabis with Tea, Coffee and a glass of wine it's pathetic. Those things aren't illegal, weed is!
Also stop comparing cannabis with Tea, Coffee and a glass of wine it's pathetic. Those things aren't illegal, weed is! essexlad08
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1:49am Wed 23 May 12

All 9 of me says...

Algus wrote:
You are confusing ironic with moronic.
where as you appear to be just moronic
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: You are confusing ironic with moronic.[/p][/quote]where as you appear to be just moronic All 9 of me
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10:03am Wed 23 May 12

Algus says...

Strewth don’t you lot have anything better to do?
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Oh dear Essexlad08, yet another imbecile. Witchcraft was still illegal at the beginning of the 18th C, does that mean the law was right up until then? Alcohol was illegal during US prohibition, does that mean drinking half a pint of shandy was morally wrong during those years? Being gay was illegal until the late sixties, does that justify jailing people for being born gay before then? Do you have a brain?
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You are a complete moron if you believe that something must be wrong just because the law says it is, the law is a dynamic system, it changes as we learn more. And the law on cannabis is completely unjustifiable which is why it is slowly being repealed or no longer enforced in half of the western world. Google it! If you want to learn (which I doubt).
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Mugged for a bit of weed? Ludicrous, weed is cheap and NOT addictive. It was cheaper than booze forty years ago and the price hasn’t changed much since then so it’s cheap as chips now. Having said that, some scummy people would mug you for a Mars bar. Probably untrue anyway as the really scummy kids have learnt to use weed as an excuse for their crimes because they know the judiciary don’t understand it and don’t know how to deal with it (a bit like you). The criminal underclass knows how to manipulate the justice system, about the only thing they do know.
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Don’t bother leaving your worthless tabloid comments on here until you know something about the subject, also read the Govts national social surveys which say over half of adults would now agree to legalising cannabis, and that proportion rises every year as you silly old dinosaurs die off. Get used to it.
Strewth don’t you lot have anything better to do? . Oh dear Essexlad08, yet another imbecile. Witchcraft was still illegal at the beginning of the 18th C, does that mean the law was right up until then? Alcohol was illegal during US prohibition, does that mean drinking half a pint of shandy was morally wrong during those years? Being gay was illegal until the late sixties, does that justify jailing people for being born gay before then? Do you have a brain? . You are a complete moron if you believe that something must be wrong just because the law says it is, the law is a dynamic system, it changes as we learn more. And the law on cannabis is completely unjustifiable which is why it is slowly being repealed or no longer enforced in half of the western world. Google it! If you want to learn (which I doubt). . Mugged for a bit of weed? Ludicrous, weed is cheap and NOT addictive. It was cheaper than booze forty years ago and the price hasn’t changed much since then so it’s cheap as chips now. Having said that, some scummy people would mug you for a Mars bar. Probably untrue anyway as the really scummy kids have learnt to use weed as an excuse for their crimes because they know the judiciary don’t understand it and don’t know how to deal with it (a bit like you). The criminal underclass knows how to manipulate the justice system, about the only thing they do know. . Don’t bother leaving your worthless tabloid comments on here until you know something about the subject, also read the Govts national social surveys which say over half of adults would now agree to legalising cannabis, and that proportion rises every year as you silly old dinosaurs die off. Get used to it. Algus
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10:12am Wed 23 May 12

Nebs says...

Algus wrote:
Strewth don’t you lot have anything better to do?
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Oh dear Essexlad08, yet another imbecile. Witchcraft was still illegal at the beginning of the 18th C, does that mean the law was right up until then? Alcohol was illegal during US prohibition, does that mean drinking half a pint of shandy was morally wrong during those years? Being gay was illegal until the late sixties, does that justify jailing people for being born gay before then? Do you have a brain?
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You are a complete moron if you believe that something must be wrong just because the law says it is, the law is a dynamic system, it changes as we learn more. And the law on cannabis is completely unjustifiable which is why it is slowly being repealed or no longer enforced in half of the western world. Google it! If you want to learn (which I doubt).
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Mugged for a bit of weed? Ludicrous, weed is cheap and NOT addictive. It was cheaper than booze forty years ago and the price hasn’t changed much since then so it’s cheap as chips now. Having said that, some scummy people would mug you for a Mars bar. Probably untrue anyway as the really scummy kids have learnt to use weed as an excuse for their crimes because they know the judiciary don’t understand it and don’t know how to deal with it (a bit like you). The criminal underclass knows how to manipulate the justice system, about the only thing they do know.
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Don’t bother leaving your worthless tabloid comments on here until you know something about the subject, also read the Govts national social surveys which say over half of adults would now agree to legalising cannabis, and that proportion rises every year as you silly old dinosaurs die off. Get used to it.
Tell you stories to the parents of the girl who was killed by a cannabis smoking driver.
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/society/2012/m
ay/07/drug-drivers-j
ail-new-law
I wonder what arrangements will be made to increase the number of bus routes, as pretty soon all the cannabis users will be banned from driving.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Strewth don’t you lot have anything better to do? . Oh dear Essexlad08, yet another imbecile. Witchcraft was still illegal at the beginning of the 18th C, does that mean the law was right up until then? Alcohol was illegal during US prohibition, does that mean drinking half a pint of shandy was morally wrong during those years? Being gay was illegal until the late sixties, does that justify jailing people for being born gay before then? Do you have a brain? . You are a complete moron if you believe that something must be wrong just because the law says it is, the law is a dynamic system, it changes as we learn more. And the law on cannabis is completely unjustifiable which is why it is slowly being repealed or no longer enforced in half of the western world. Google it! If you want to learn (which I doubt). . Mugged for a bit of weed? Ludicrous, weed is cheap and NOT addictive. It was cheaper than booze forty years ago and the price hasn’t changed much since then so it’s cheap as chips now. Having said that, some scummy people would mug you for a Mars bar. Probably untrue anyway as the really scummy kids have learnt to use weed as an excuse for their crimes because they know the judiciary don’t understand it and don’t know how to deal with it (a bit like you). The criminal underclass knows how to manipulate the justice system, about the only thing they do know. . Don’t bother leaving your worthless tabloid comments on here until you know something about the subject, also read the Govts national social surveys which say over half of adults would now agree to legalising cannabis, and that proportion rises every year as you silly old dinosaurs die off. Get used to it.[/p][/quote]Tell you stories to the parents of the girl who was killed by a cannabis smoking driver. http://www.guardian. co.uk/society/2012/m ay/07/drug-drivers-j ail-new-law I wonder what arrangements will be made to increase the number of bus routes, as pretty soon all the cannabis users will be banned from driving. Nebs
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10:39am Wed 23 May 12

Algus says...

Another brainless comment. No-one has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. Driving whilst under the influence is no different to drink driving, you shouldn't do it. Do you think cannabis users are permanently stoned? Idiot. people who enjoy the odd drink don't have to use buses, they just don't drink and drive at the same time (most of them), ditto tokers. Whats the problem?
Another brainless comment. No-one has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. Driving whilst under the influence is no different to drink driving, you shouldn't do it. Do you think cannabis users are permanently stoned? Idiot. people who enjoy the odd drink don't have to use buses, they just don't drink and drive at the same time (most of them), ditto tokers. Whats the problem? Algus
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10:45am Wed 23 May 12

Algus says...

You antis are completely brainless, you have no understanding whatsoever of the subject and you don't want to know the real facts and yet you scream your bigoted ideas from the rooftops. No wonder this country is in a mess.
You antis are completely brainless, you have no understanding whatsoever of the subject and you don't want to know the real facts and yet you scream your bigoted ideas from the rooftops. No wonder this country is in a mess. Algus
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11:43am Wed 23 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Quote of the day!! Mudlark the only real crime is caused by the fact that its illegal, what cant you understand about that?**
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PMSL. so by your ethics, make something thats illegal, legal and ther is no crime!! Genius, pure genius, your so called years at Uni certainly havnt been wasted have they.
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The facts are presented to you with links to their origin and your still in denial.
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With all these so called letters after your name and all the years you claim to have spent at Uni, you still havnt managed to hold a conversation down without insults. Personally I believe you as a fake. Excitation!!
** Last poster is right, you are a dealer trying to justify the use of an illegal substance for self gain.
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Ive never once called you names because you decide to indulge in an illegal past time, infact fill your boots Algus/Excitation.
What I will say though that if you are working with Children then you need to be stopped straight away, you say you are CRB checked, tell me if you had put on the CRB form that you smoke cannabis would you have been given the CRB cert!! NO is the answer for very good reason, especially now you have publicly announced you endorse smoking it to your own children, I'd also hazzard a guess and say if those parents of those kids found out that your coaching will be over pretty quickly.
Que: they already know and smoke it themselves statement or want for a better word, B*LLSH*t!!
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Lastly because I didnt go to Uni you claim it says it all? DOES IT. tell me what does it say?
Does it say that I have ethics, especially where my kids are concerned, does it say that I have for the past 28 years run a very successful business employing 100's over the years with a job? Does it say that I can smell a b*L*sh*tter a mile off.
Does it say that the cure for criminality is to make things legal. Ooops no not the last one as thats your ethic so thats a Uni job!!
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The art of overcoming habitual Bull*h*t, ing is to admit you have the problem yourself first then you can get help Algus or is it Excitation. :)
It really isnt worth posting any further as I feel you have already made yourself look a complete idiot. it leaves me to say just one thing Algus. GO GET YOURSELF A LIFE and stop pretending to be someone your not!!!!
Quote of the day!! Mudlark the only real crime is caused by the fact that its illegal, what cant you understand about that?** ** PMSL. so by your ethics, make something thats illegal, legal and ther is no crime!! Genius, pure genius, your so called years at Uni certainly havnt been wasted have they. ** The facts are presented to you with links to their origin and your still in denial. ** With all these so called letters after your name and all the years you claim to have spent at Uni, you still havnt managed to hold a conversation down without insults. Personally I believe you as a fake. Excitation!! ** Last poster is right, you are a dealer trying to justify the use of an illegal substance for self gain. ** Ive never once called you names because you decide to indulge in an illegal past time, infact fill your boots Algus/Excitation. What I will say though that if you are working with Children then you need to be stopped straight away, you say you are CRB checked, tell me if you had put on the CRB form that you smoke cannabis would you have been given the CRB cert!! NO is the answer for very good reason, especially now you have publicly announced you endorse smoking it to your own children, I'd also hazzard a guess and say if those parents of those kids found out that your coaching will be over pretty quickly. Que: they already know and smoke it themselves statement or want for a better word, B*LLSH*t!! ** Lastly because I didnt go to Uni you claim it says it all? DOES IT. tell me what does it say? Does it say that I have ethics, especially where my kids are concerned, does it say that I have for the past 28 years run a very successful business employing 100's over the years with a job? Does it say that I can smell a b*L*sh*tter a mile off. Does it say that the cure for criminality is to make things legal. Ooops no not the last one as thats your ethic so thats a Uni job!! ** The art of overcoming habitual Bull*h*t, ing is to admit you have the problem yourself first then you can get help Algus or is it Excitation. :) It really isnt worth posting any further as I feel you have already made yourself look a complete idiot. it leaves me to say just one thing Algus. GO GET YOURSELF A LIFE and stop pretending to be someone your not!!!! Mudlark1
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12:02pm Wed 23 May 12

Algus says...

You are a total imbecile Mudlark, no point arguing with a bigoted biased looney like you who is incapable of reassessing your views in the light of new information, thats why I am a professional and in reality you are probably a long retired factory worker. Got better things to do with my time matey.
You are a total imbecile Mudlark, no point arguing with a bigoted biased looney like you who is incapable of reassessing your views in the light of new information, thats why I am a professional and in reality you are probably a long retired factory worker. Got better things to do with my time matey. Algus
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12:57pm Wed 23 May 12

Nebs says...

Algus wrote:
Another brainless comment. No-one has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. Driving whilst under the influence is no different to drink driving, you shouldn't do it. Do you think cannabis users are permanently stoned? Idiot. people who enjoy the odd drink don't have to use buses, they just don't drink and drive at the same time (most of them), ditto tokers. Whats the problem?
You may well be right that nobody has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. I don't know, I am not privvy to everyones medical records. You obviously are, to be able to make such a comment.

But other people die because of cannabis, for example the girl in the guardian story I quoted.

Get the potheads off the road, and make the country a safer place. People shouldn't be allowed to drive if they have got a Pot Hole in their brain.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Another brainless comment. No-one has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. Driving whilst under the influence is no different to drink driving, you shouldn't do it. Do you think cannabis users are permanently stoned? Idiot. people who enjoy the odd drink don't have to use buses, they just don't drink and drive at the same time (most of them), ditto tokers. Whats the problem?[/p][/quote]You may well be right that nobody has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. I don't know, I am not privvy to everyones medical records. You obviously are, to be able to make such a comment. But other people die because of cannabis, for example the girl in the guardian story I quoted. Get the potheads off the road, and make the country a safer place. People shouldn't be allowed to drive if they have got a Pot Hole in their brain. Nebs
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12:59pm Wed 23 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Hang on one minute im a councillor now im a factory worker! Whats going on with that Tiny little brain of yours?
You are living proof that Cannabis really does affect the brain.
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You call me biased!! well it beats pretending to being sombody im not i suppose. :)
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On a more serious note: I have decided to ask the Echo to investigate you, in light of your comments regarding your own children, I feel it is my duty as a Parent to warn those parents you claim to coach that you are not fit to coach any child and that potentially you are nurturing their kids as future customers for your illegal drug peddling.
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You sound like a loser Algus and I have concluded that you really are a loser in life, but you knew that already didnt you Algus!!
Hang on one minute im a councillor now im a factory worker! Whats going on with that Tiny little brain of yours? You are living proof that Cannabis really does affect the brain. ** You call me biased!! well it beats pretending to being sombody im not i suppose. :) ** On a more serious note: I have decided to ask the Echo to investigate you, in light of your comments regarding your own children, I feel it is my duty as a Parent to warn those parents you claim to coach that you are not fit to coach any child and that potentially you are nurturing their kids as future customers for your illegal drug peddling. ** You sound like a loser Algus and I have concluded that you really are a loser in life, but you knew that already didnt you Algus!! Mudlark1
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1:30pm Wed 23 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

Tumble weed moment!! lol
Tumble weed moment!! lol Mudlark1
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1:52pm Wed 23 May 12

Algus says...

Ha ha ha! You are such an imbecile Mudlark, and you are not a very perceptive person either because I always tell the truth matey. If you were more perceptive you would also be able to tell from my use of language that I have clearly had a much better education than you. You can't even read plain English can you? I have stated quite clearly a number of times that we do NOT encourage our kids to smoke dope, we don't even let them smoke cigarettes in the house never mind dope, even though my son is 23 years old in July.
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As for my coaching at the * sports club, would you say the same thing to someone who enjoyed the odd glass of wine? No of course you wouldn't so why do you say such stupid things about people (remember there are Millions like me so we are everywhere) who choose to use a far less harmful and far less debilitating drug than your evil alcohol? Bet you are a drinker.
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The Echo has been a real eye opener for me, I have spent my life amongst intelligent people, at college, at work, socially, around the yacht club etc, so I didn't realise how many truly stupid people there really are out there. You lot have put me right on that one. You are like the dumbos on X Factor who can't sing for toffee but think they are god's gift to the world of music. You lot are all truly imbeciles. Byeee
Ha ha ha! You are such an imbecile Mudlark, and you are not a very perceptive person either because I always tell the truth matey. If you were more perceptive you would also be able to tell from my use of language that I have clearly had a much better education than you. You can't even read plain English can you? I have stated quite clearly a number of times that we do NOT encourage our kids to smoke dope, we don't even let them smoke cigarettes in the house never mind dope, even though my son is 23 years old in July. . As for my coaching at the * sports club, would you say the same thing to someone who enjoyed the odd glass of wine? No of course you wouldn't so why do you say such stupid things about people (remember there are Millions like me so we are everywhere) who choose to use a far less harmful and far less debilitating drug than your evil alcohol? Bet you are a drinker. . The Echo has been a real eye opener for me, I have spent my life amongst intelligent people, at college, at work, socially, around the yacht club etc, so I didn't realise how many truly stupid people there really are out there. You lot have put me right on that one. You are like the dumbos on X Factor who can't sing for toffee but think they are god's gift to the world of music. You lot are all truly imbeciles. Byeee Algus
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1:57pm Wed 23 May 12

Algus says...

"You may well be right that nobody has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. I don't know, I am not privvy to everyones medical records. You obviously are, to be able to make such a comment".
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More moronic claims from another imbecile, you don't need to see everyones med records to know this, it is a simple matter of public record. Prove me wrong dumbo. You can't.
"You may well be right that nobody has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. I don't know, I am not privvy to everyones medical records. You obviously are, to be able to make such a comment". . More moronic claims from another imbecile, you don't need to see everyones med records to know this, it is a simple matter of public record. Prove me wrong dumbo. You can't. Algus
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2:39pm Wed 23 May 12

Mudlark1 says...

As for my coaching at the * sports club, would you say the same thing to someone who enjoyed the odd glass of wine? No of course you wouldn't: **
Well you have one thing right for a change, no I wouldnt but then again is alcohol illegal, NO.
What was that you were saying about being perceptive, you cant even perceive the fact that alcohol is legal and cannabis is illegal but you attempt to compare the two, how bizzarre.
Then you go on and say by the way you write on here is a demonstration of you educational prowess. NEWSFLASH!! if you believe your use of words are to be commended then maybe you need to look at suing that Uni. Most sentences you have started, start with an insult, to many that is the mind of an immature uneducated idiot! fits you down to a tee. You have done nothing but expose yourself to be the fool you really are. For someone to compare something which is illegal over something that is legal says it all really dosnt it!!
I was wondering if actually your kids being they have a parent like you to look down on are actually doing their masters at her majesty's pleasure. Or at the very least if its Uni that its not the one you claim to have gone to because its very obvious they will get no where in life as a result..
As for my coaching at the * sports club, would you say the same thing to someone who enjoyed the odd glass of wine? No of course you wouldn't: ** Well you have one thing right for a change, no I wouldnt but then again is alcohol illegal, NO. What was that you were saying about being perceptive, you cant even perceive the fact that alcohol is legal and cannabis is illegal but you attempt to compare the two, how bizzarre. Then you go on and say by the way you write on here is a demonstration of you educational prowess. NEWSFLASH!! if you believe your use of words are to be commended then maybe you need to look at suing that Uni. Most sentences you have started, start with an insult, to many that is the mind of an immature uneducated idiot! fits you down to a tee. You have done nothing but expose yourself to be the fool you really are. For someone to compare something which is illegal over something that is legal says it all really dosnt it!! I was wondering if actually your kids being they have a parent like you to look down on are actually doing their masters at her majesty's pleasure. Or at the very least if its Uni that its not the one you claim to have gone to because its very obvious they will get no where in life as a result.. Mudlark1
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2:48pm Wed 23 May 12

Nebs says...

Algus wrote:
"You may well be right that nobody has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. I don't know, I am not privvy to everyones medical records. You obviously are, to be able to make such a comment".
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More moronic claims from another imbecile, you don't need to see everyones med records to know this, it is a simple matter of public record. Prove me wrong dumbo. You can't.
I can't prove you wrong, thats why I said you may well be right. Having had a quick look at google, there are several coroners who would disagree with you.
This one
http://www.theage.co
m.au/articles/2004/0
1/20/1074360762037.h
tml
or this one
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/uknews/l
aw-and-order/5712259
/Coroner-blames-deat
h-on-toxic-cannabis.
html

I then pointed out that other people, who were not users, have died because of cannabis. Maybe the drugs have addled your brain as you forgot, twice, to address the point about the girl who was killed. Doesn't fit in with your agenda does it, that there might actually be some problems associated with cannabis. So your strategy is to ignore it and just insult people.

Maybe you have a different version of google to the rest of us, that only shows the pro cannabis study results.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: "You may well be right that nobody has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. I don't know, I am not privvy to everyones medical records. You obviously are, to be able to make such a comment". . More moronic claims from another imbecile, you don't need to see everyones med records to know this, it is a simple matter of public record. Prove me wrong dumbo. You can't.[/p][/quote]I can't prove you wrong, thats why I said you may well be right. Having had a quick look at google, there are several coroners who would disagree with you. This one http://www.theage.co m.au/articles/2004/0 1/20/1074360762037.h tml or this one http://www.telegraph .co.uk/news/uknews/l aw-and-order/5712259 /Coroner-blames-deat h-on-toxic-cannabis. html I then pointed out that other people, who were not users, have died because of cannabis. Maybe the drugs have addled your brain as you forgot, twice, to address the point about the girl who was killed. Doesn't fit in with your agenda does it, that there might actually be some problems associated with cannabis. So your strategy is to ignore it and just insult people. Maybe you have a different version of google to the rest of us, that only shows the pro cannabis study results. Nebs
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3:23pm Wed 23 May 12

Blind Haze says...

Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.
Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land. Blind Haze
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4:48pm Wed 23 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Blind Haze wrote:
Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.
nonsense. all the pro arguments benchmark dope against other harmful substances. a cannabis user's strongest argument is that it's less harmful than alcohol (depends how you measure harm). great. there are no reasons to legalise this substance starting from a position of illegality.
[quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.[/p][/quote]nonsense. all the pro arguments benchmark dope against other harmful substances. a cannabis user's strongest argument is that it's less harmful than alcohol (depends how you measure harm). great. there are no reasons to legalise this substance starting from a position of illegality. asbo foundation
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5:52pm Wed 23 May 12

essexlad08 says...

Algus I like the way you think everybody who doesn't agree with you is an imbecile or bigot, well Algus you are the most deluded plank of a person I have ever witnessed, you are obviously high when you write these pathetic comments people show you proof but you don't want to know because you want to justify smoking weed yourself, and I'm not an old man either I'm a 26 year old who owns 3 successful businesses and has worked hard to build what I have, I've done well but I'm willing to work, it's the idiots who want to make a living selling this crap I've got no time for as they are just to lazy to go and work, If people want to spend money on drugs that's their problem they obviously don't have much of a life and need to fill the gap somehow, ive got far better things to get on with, now go and get some more letters after your name if that will make you feel important you moron.
Algus I like the way you think everybody who doesn't agree with you is an imbecile or bigot, well Algus you are the most deluded plank of a person I have ever witnessed, you are obviously high when you write these pathetic comments people show you proof but you don't want to know because you want to justify smoking weed yourself, and I'm not an old man either I'm a 26 year old who owns 3 successful businesses and has worked hard to build what I have, I've done well but I'm willing to work, it's the idiots who want to make a living selling this crap I've got no time for as they are just to lazy to go and work, If people want to spend money on drugs that's their problem they obviously don't have much of a life and need to fill the gap somehow, ive got far better things to get on with, now go and get some more letters after your name if that will make you feel important you moron. essexlad08
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5:52pm Wed 23 May 12

essexlad08 says...

Algus I like the way you think everybody who doesn't agree with you is an imbecile or bigot, well Algus you are the most deluded plank of a person I have ever witnessed, you are obviously high when you write these pathetic comments people show you proof but you don't want to know because you want to justify smoking weed yourself, and I'm not an old man either I'm a 26 year old who owns 3 successful businesses and has worked hard to build what I have, I've done well but I'm willing to work, it's the idiots who want to make a living selling this crap I've got no time for as they are just to lazy to go and work, If people want to spend money on drugs that's their problem they obviously don't have much of a life and need to fill the gap somehow, ive got far better things to get on with, now go and get some more letters after your name if that will make you feel important you moron.
Algus I like the way you think everybody who doesn't agree with you is an imbecile or bigot, well Algus you are the most deluded plank of a person I have ever witnessed, you are obviously high when you write these pathetic comments people show you proof but you don't want to know because you want to justify smoking weed yourself, and I'm not an old man either I'm a 26 year old who owns 3 successful businesses and has worked hard to build what I have, I've done well but I'm willing to work, it's the idiots who want to make a living selling this crap I've got no time for as they are just to lazy to go and work, If people want to spend money on drugs that's their problem they obviously don't have much of a life and need to fill the gap somehow, ive got far better things to get on with, now go and get some more letters after your name if that will make you feel important you moron. essexlad08
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6:06pm Wed 23 May 12

Algus says...

Blind Haze wrote:
Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.
My kids are hardly children, my youngest is nearly 23 and studying for an RIBA Masters at London Uni, and I bring my kids up to know what's RIGHT, not what the law says is right because that is often a completely different matter, except to brainless people who just blindly obey the law whatever it says. If most people were like that we'd still be persecuting witches, gays etc.
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For your information MOST people between their mid fifties and mid sixties have toked, we are the sixties generation and we KNOW that cannabis is relatively harmless. You lot know nothing.
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'Toxic cannabis' Nebs? That is like comparing a glass of wine to drinking meths, hardly a death due to normal cannabis. Likewise the car crash is NOT an overdose, but I don't expect you to understand that as your brain has clearly ceased functioning and gone into hibernation.
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Not answerng you Mudlark as you are clearly incapable of grasping that the law is not always right, bet you'd have been at the front of the queue to watch the witches burn and gay people imprisoned. You are a moral illiterate but you are so thick you don't even know it. Wouldn't pi55 on you if you were on fire.
[quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.[/p][/quote]My kids are hardly children, my youngest is nearly 23 and studying for an RIBA Masters at London Uni, and I bring my kids up to know what's RIGHT, not what the law says is right because that is often a completely different matter, except to brainless people who just blindly obey the law whatever it says. If most people were like that we'd still be persecuting witches, gays etc. . For your information MOST people between their mid fifties and mid sixties have toked, we are the sixties generation and we KNOW that cannabis is relatively harmless. You lot know nothing. . 'Toxic cannabis' Nebs? That is like comparing a glass of wine to drinking meths, hardly a death due to normal cannabis. Likewise the car crash is NOT an overdose, but I don't expect you to understand that as your brain has clearly ceased functioning and gone into hibernation. . Not answerng you Mudlark as you are clearly incapable of grasping that the law is not always right, bet you'd have been at the front of the queue to watch the witches burn and gay people imprisoned. You are a moral illiterate but you are so thick you don't even know it. Wouldn't pi55 on you if you were on fire. Algus
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9:42pm Wed 23 May 12

asbo foundation says...

the original and best. it'll be just like old times. i'll get the peter reynolds dart board out, you bring your collection of marylou voodoo dolls. benfleet yacht club?
the original and best. it'll be just like old times. i'll get the peter reynolds dart board out, you bring your collection of marylou voodoo dolls. benfleet yacht club? asbo foundation
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10:34pm Wed 23 May 12

asbo foundation says...

the banana costume you're wearing on the byc website really suits you.
the banana costume you're wearing on the byc website really suits you. asbo foundation
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11:24pm Wed 23 May 12

Last Poster says...

Algus STOP! You are the victim of your drug abuse and do not know it, or (and this is actually far more likely) you are simply a Troll. Either way, you mucked up on my qualifications, I am a Master of, not a Master in, qualified via my thesis, end of.
On the other hand I cannot see one poster on here who has not been the subject of your insults, and worse, criticism of those posters family values. You think you are the best thing since the grated skunk you suck into yourself, yet cannot see that your "Totally harmless" pleas are off the planet. Why do you need to take on every anti on this site, and, more to the point, what kind of prop is it for you. You do not have enough in your life without needing that special little helper? Do you disagree that smoking is harmful? If so, why do you encourage your imagined children to take up that habit, or have you now a way of inhaling your little helpers without the use of tobacco?
Come on Troll, admit your just here for the wind up. You never know, you might even find that some people could even respect you a little if you plucked up courage and spoke the truth for once....
Meantime, bored now, discussion over bye Troll!
Algus STOP! You are the victim of your drug abuse and do not know it, or (and this is actually far more likely) you are simply a Troll. Either way, you mucked up on my qualifications, I am a Master of, not a Master in, qualified via my thesis, end of. On the other hand I cannot see one poster on here who has not been the subject of your insults, and worse, criticism of those posters family values. You think you are the best thing since the grated skunk you suck into yourself, yet cannot see that your "Totally harmless" pleas are off the planet. Why do you need to take on every anti on this site, and, more to the point, what kind of prop is it for you. You do not have enough in your life without needing that special little helper? Do you disagree that smoking is harmful? If so, why do you encourage your imagined children to take up that habit, or have you now a way of inhaling your little helpers without the use of tobacco? Come on Troll, admit your just here for the wind up. You never know, you might even find that some people could even respect you a little if you plucked up courage and spoke the truth for once.... Meantime, bored now, discussion over bye Troll! Last Poster
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11:25pm Wed 23 May 12

E-Types says...

Algus wrote:
Last Poster wrote:
Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?
Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.
"Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable"

And has been since the 60s when you first started smoking it. LOL
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Of Course Cannabis is harmless. My young grandson has been "Introduced" to this totally harmless compound. He is not addicted and is only into crime the way he is to pay for the "Monster" soft drink he has to have when he can't get the weed. A perfectly nice, decent lad who's only vice was football until he met Mr. Pusher and his persuasive ways. Much the same as I was never addicted to alcohol and could take it or leave it, much the same as I only drank socially and I even drove better when I'd had a few and of course, I knew my limits! Luckily for me, they brought out the breathalyser and I saw the writing on the wall and stopped drinking. My heart attack stopped me smoking shortly after that. Yes of course I am a dinosaur and know next to nothing compared to the modern young sages who know everything. Perhaps they can tell me why that phrase sounds so familiar?[/p][/quote]Then either your grandson is one of the miniscule number of people who don't get on with the weed, just as some don't get on with alcohol, or you are looking through rose tinted specs. No-one commits crimes because of weed, it's cheap as chips in case you don't know, and it's not addictive in the physical sense like alcohol, heroin, nicotine etc. Are you sure your grandson is such a paragon of virtue cos to be frank, I doubt it. Btw me and all my friends have been toking since the sixties with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. Now all our children and our grandchildren toke (not encouraged, they just do it as most kids do), again with no problems, and we'd rather they did that than drink alcohol because the dangers of alcohol are SO MUCH GREATER! Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable.[/p][/quote]"Roll on decriminalisation, it is inevitable" And has been since the 60s when you first started smoking it. LOL E-Types
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11:29pm Wed 23 May 12

E-Types says...

Jesslca wrote:
Algus wrote:
Waffle on dough brain
idiot
You dont see the irony in your post?
[quote][p][bold]Jesslca[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: Waffle on dough brain[/p][/quote]idiot[/p][/quote]You dont see the irony in your post? E-Types
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11:38pm Wed 23 May 12

E-Types says...

Algus wrote:
That troll Asbo is without doubt the most ignorant person posting on here, keeps referring to addiction when even the Doctors say it is NOT physically addictive and the Govts own Drug Advisor says cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and nicotine. You want more proof? As previously stated our hospitals are packed full with alcohol and nicotine casualties whilst the number of cannabis casualties are miniscule. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of your moronic opinions eh?
Forgive me if im wrong having never smoked the stuff but isn't it smoked in conjunction with tobacco thus those smoking it can also be those who you mention as nicotine casualties.

I do see the point you make of decriminalising it taking way much of the crime involved with selling it ie violence. But of course it wont take away all the attached crime.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: That troll Asbo is without doubt the most ignorant person posting on here, keeps referring to addiction when even the Doctors say it is NOT physically addictive and the Govts own Drug Advisor says cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and nicotine. You want more proof? As previously stated our hospitals are packed full with alcohol and nicotine casualties whilst the number of cannabis casualties are miniscule. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of your moronic opinions eh?[/p][/quote]Forgive me if im wrong having never smoked the stuff but isn't it smoked in conjunction with tobacco thus those smoking it can also be those who you mention as nicotine casualties. I do see the point you make of decriminalising it taking way much of the crime involved with selling it ie violence. But of course it wont take away all the attached crime. E-Types
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12:40am Thu 24 May 12

E-Types says...

Blind Haze wrote:
Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.
If Algus IS 'excitation' then apparently his brother is a serving police officer or so he claimed.
[quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.[/p][/quote]If Algus IS 'excitation' then apparently his brother is a serving police officer or so he claimed. E-Types
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7:07am Thu 24 May 12

asbo foundation says...

E-Types wrote:
Blind Haze wrote:
Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.
If Algus IS 'excitation' then apparently his brother is a serving police officer or so he claimed.
oh do keep up.
[quote][p][bold]E-Types[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.[/p][/quote]If Algus IS 'excitation' then apparently his brother is a serving police officer or so he claimed.[/p][/quote]oh do keep up. asbo foundation
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8:57am Thu 24 May 12

Nebs says...

Algus wrote:
Blind Haze wrote:
Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.
My kids are hardly children, my youngest is nearly 23 and studying for an RIBA Masters at London Uni, and I bring my kids up to know what's RIGHT, not what the law says is right because that is often a completely different matter, except to brainless people who just blindly obey the law whatever it says. If most people were like that we'd still be persecuting witches, gays etc.
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For your information MOST people between their mid fifties and mid sixties have toked, we are the sixties generation and we KNOW that cannabis is relatively harmless. You lot know nothing.
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'Toxic cannabis' Nebs? That is like comparing a glass of wine to drinking meths, hardly a death due to normal cannabis. Likewise the car crash is NOT an overdose, but I don't expect you to understand that as your brain has clearly ceased functioning and gone into hibernation.
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Not answerng you Mudlark as you are clearly incapable of grasping that the law is not always right, bet you'd have been at the front of the queue to watch the witches burn and gay people imprisoned. You are a moral illiterate but you are so thick you don't even know it. Wouldn't pi55 on you if you were on fire.
If ever evidence was needed that cannabis affects the brain then this thread is it.
[quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: Algus - you turn a blind eye to your children smoking cannabis(whether or not it should be a decriminalised is a different matter with strong arguments for and against). Do you think that there is a possibility that you have brought them up thinking that they can break the law if it's a minor offence or if it suits them? Whether or not it should be legal, it is illegal so I'm wondering what your view on their upbringing with regards to their perception of the law of the land.[/p][/quote]My kids are hardly children, my youngest is nearly 23 and studying for an RIBA Masters at London Uni, and I bring my kids up to know what's RIGHT, not what the law says is right because that is often a completely different matter, except to brainless people who just blindly obey the law whatever it says. If most people were like that we'd still be persecuting witches, gays etc. . For your information MOST people between their mid fifties and mid sixties have toked, we are the sixties generation and we KNOW that cannabis is relatively harmless. You lot know nothing. . 'Toxic cannabis' Nebs? That is like comparing a glass of wine to drinking meths, hardly a death due to normal cannabis. Likewise the car crash is NOT an overdose, but I don't expect you to understand that as your brain has clearly ceased functioning and gone into hibernation. . Not answerng you Mudlark as you are clearly incapable of grasping that the law is not always right, bet you'd have been at the front of the queue to watch the witches burn and gay people imprisoned. You are a moral illiterate but you are so thick you don't even know it. Wouldn't pi55 on you if you were on fire.[/p][/quote]If ever evidence was needed that cannabis affects the brain then this thread is it. Nebs
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9:34am Thu 24 May 12

Son of stropmag says...

E-Types wrote:
Algus wrote:
That troll Asbo is without doubt the most ignorant person posting on here, keeps referring to addiction when even the Doctors say it is NOT physically addictive and the Govts own Drug Advisor says cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and nicotine. You want more proof? As previously stated our hospitals are packed full with alcohol and nicotine casualties whilst the number of cannabis casualties are miniscule. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of your moronic opinions eh?
Forgive me if im wrong having never smoked the stuff but isn't it smoked in conjunction with tobacco thus those smoking it can also be those who you mention as nicotine casualties.

I do see the point you make of decriminalising it taking way much of the crime involved with selling it ie violence. But of course it wont take away all the attached crime.
"Forgive me if im wrong....."
You are forgiven.
[quote][p][bold]E-Types[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Algus[/bold] wrote: That troll Asbo is without doubt the most ignorant person posting on here, keeps referring to addiction when even the Doctors say it is NOT physically addictive and the Govts own Drug Advisor says cannabis is LESS HARMFUL than alcohol and nicotine. You want more proof? As previously stated our hospitals are packed full with alcohol and nicotine casualties whilst the number of cannabis casualties are miniscule. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of your moronic opinions eh?[/p][/quote]Forgive me if im wrong having never smoked the stuff but isn't it smoked in conjunction with tobacco thus those smoking it can also be those who you mention as nicotine casualties. I do see the point you make of decriminalising it taking way much of the crime involved with selling it ie violence. But of course it wont take away all the attached crime.[/p][/quote]"Forgive me if im wrong....." You are forgiven. Son of stropmag
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12:38pm Thu 24 May 12

tjm01 says...

I have to say that Algus is possibly the rudest,most offensive poster I have had the misfortune to have read, just what gives him/her to right to abuse peoples comments/opinions just because he/she disagrees with them, if this is how cannabis users behave I for one am glad that it is (and hopefully will remain) illigal to use, and IF as you seem so ill bent on portraying you are an educated individual why can you not get your point across without refering to people as morons, I doubt that you have ever met any of the posters who have expressed their views on this subject, but you still think it is OK to label them as morons, if this is the result of a university education then I am so glad that the majority of people do not go on to university
I have to say that Algus is possibly the rudest,most offensive poster I have had the misfortune to have read, just what gives him/her to right to abuse peoples comments/opinions just because he/she disagrees with them, if this is how cannabis users behave I for one am glad that it is (and hopefully will remain) illigal to use, and IF as you seem so ill bent on portraying you are an educated individual why can you not get your point across without refering to people as morons, I doubt that you have ever met any of the posters who have expressed their views on this subject, but you still think it is OK to label them as morons, if this is the result of a university education then I am so glad that the majority of people do not go on to university tjm01
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2:45pm Thu 24 May 12

Aint it just the truth says...

LastPoster, you claim your engineering MSc is equivalent to a Doctorate? Rubbish, if it was it wouldn’t be an MSc, an MSc is a taught qualification whereas most Doctorates are research based qualifications. And only three letters after your name? You usually have to take a Batchelors degree to get onto a Masters course. You must have one of those funny vocational Masters for people already working, basically a jumped up NVQ. Uni Professors laugh at them because all they prove is that you were good at your job, they certainly don’t have the academic rigour or breadth of normal degrees.
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You may or may not have an MSc but you are not displaying much intelligence on here are you? It is illogical to support the ban of a non-lethal substance that is considerably less harmful than all the legally available drugs. Who says it is less harmful? Lots of people including the most comprehensive research studies to date and successive Govt Drug Advisors. Google it.
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Even the Police tread lightly where cannabis is concerned - simple possession rarely goes further than a caution and it‘s been like that for over 30 years. They will tell you cannabis is not a problem, whereas your favourite poison IS. Ask them.
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Mudlark you claimed to be a Times reader, more BS from the master? I have read The Times for decades and seen some very balanced articles on cannabis (and a few less balanced). Didn’t you see them? And what about all those full page ads by the great and good calling for legalisation? You wouldn’t have seen them either if you didn’t actually read the Times. Even if you did I bet you don’t think Paul McCartney’s views are worth hearing.
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Ignoring the fact that far greater minds than McCartneys signed the ads, let’s go with McCartney. He has certainly done a lot more with his life than you have, hasn’t he? He has also just announced that he has given up smoking dope, but then he is seventy years old, he’s probably given up loads of things, I know I have, but all those years of smoking haven’t done him much harm have they? He’s certainly not fat, blotchy and wrinkly like most of the boozers I know.
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Our hospitals are full of alcohol and nicotine casualties. Where are all the cannabis casualties if cannabis is so harmful? They are not there, go check the figures for yourself.
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Is this a wind up? Yes of course it is, but not in the sense you lot mean. You are so out of touch that the simple truth winds you up. Remember the majority would support legalisation now so you are firmly in the losers camp. And you are just plain ignorant tjm01. Laughable.
LastPoster, you claim your engineering MSc is equivalent to a Doctorate? Rubbish, if it was it wouldn’t be an MSc, an MSc is a taught qualification whereas most Doctorates are research based qualifications. And only three letters after your name? You usually have to take a Batchelors degree to get onto a Masters course. You must have one of those funny vocational Masters for people already working, basically a jumped up NVQ. Uni Professors laugh at them because all they prove is that you were good at your job, they certainly don’t have the academic rigour or breadth of normal degrees. , You may or may not have an MSc but you are not displaying much intelligence on here are you? It is illogical to support the ban of a non-lethal substance that is considerably less harmful than all the legally available drugs. Who says it is less harmful? Lots of people including the most comprehensive research studies to date and successive Govt Drug Advisors. Google it. , Even the Police tread lightly where cannabis is concerned - simple possession rarely goes further than a caution and it‘s been like that for over 30 years. They will tell you cannabis is not a problem, whereas your favourite poison IS. Ask them. . Mudlark you claimed to be a Times reader, more BS from the master? I have read The Times for decades and seen some very balanced articles on cannabis (and a few less balanced). Didn’t you see them? And what about all those full page ads by the great and good calling for legalisation? You wouldn’t have seen them either if you didn’t actually read the Times. Even if you did I bet you don’t think Paul McCartney’s views are worth hearing. . Ignoring the fact that far greater minds than McCartneys signed the ads, let’s go with McCartney. He has certainly done a lot more with his life than you have, hasn’t he? He has also just announced that he has given up smoking dope, but then he is seventy years old, he’s probably given up loads of things, I know I have, but all those years of smoking haven’t done him much harm have they? He’s certainly not fat, blotchy and wrinkly like most of the boozers I know. . Our hospitals are full of alcohol and nicotine casualties. Where are all the cannabis casualties if cannabis is so harmful? They are not there, go check the figures for yourself. . Is this a wind up? Yes of course it is, but not in the sense you lot mean. You are so out of touch that the simple truth winds you up. Remember the majority would support legalisation now so you are firmly in the losers camp. And you are just plain ignorant tjm01. Laughable. Aint it just the truth
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5:09pm Thu 24 May 12

Son of stropmag says...

@ Aint it.......
Sounds like the truth to me. An argument well put.
@ Aint it....... Sounds like the truth to me. An argument well put. Son of stropmag
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7:03pm Thu 24 May 12

Aint it just the truth says...

Thank you Son of Stropmag, the anti-cannabis posters on here claim to have Doctorates and run Businesses that employ a hundred people but if they really had a grain of intelligence they would concede that there are powerful arguments for legalising cannabis, but they don't, all they do is bleat on about all drugs being terrible and illegal, no doubt before they pop down the pub to partake of one of the most dangerous drugs in the world, alcohol.
Thank you Son of Stropmag, the anti-cannabis posters on here claim to have Doctorates and run Businesses that employ a hundred people but if they really had a grain of intelligence they would concede that there are powerful arguments for legalising cannabis, but they don't, all they do is bleat on about all drugs being terrible and illegal, no doubt before they pop down the pub to partake of one of the most dangerous drugs in the world, alcohol. Aint it just the truth
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8:53pm Thu 24 May 12

meldrew84 says...

R85 wrote:
How can cannabis possibly be illegal when alcohol is not? Alcohol has been proven to be more harmful than cannabis! On top of this alcohol causes aggression and cannabis causes relaxation! Why one is legal and the other is not is beyond comprehension! Alcohol is a drug and nicotine is one of the most harmful substances on Earth (plus Nicotine is THE most addictive substance on Earth, full-stop). I just can’t understand why drink & extremely addictive fags are legal and this isn’t!
agree with pretty much all of that....although i would just highlight the fact prolonged use of cannabis can lead to severe mental health problems! so it does have its own casualties.
not that the government would be bothered by its possible harms or benefits, the only reason they havent legalised it yet is because they dont know how to gain control of it and take it from the black market into their tax system! otherwise im almost certain you could go to the offie and purchase a packet of ready rolled spliffs! lol

whilst i choose not to smoke it myself anymore and wouldnt advise anyone to start i can certainly say this much..... i would rather live around pot heads than **** heads and crack heads any day! i think its ignorant to even class all cannabis smokers as "druggies" as most of them i know work hard, have great morals and a few even work with local charities! the criminality and violence is only associated with world the government have forced the drug into....
[quote][p][bold]R85[/bold] wrote: How can cannabis possibly be illegal when alcohol is not? Alcohol has been proven to be more harmful than cannabis! On top of this alcohol causes aggression and cannabis causes relaxation! Why one is legal and the other is not is beyond comprehension! Alcohol is a drug and nicotine is one of the most harmful substances on Earth (plus Nicotine is THE most addictive substance on Earth, full-stop). I just can’t understand why drink & extremely addictive fags are legal and this isn’t![/p][/quote]agree with pretty much all of that....although i would just highlight the fact prolonged use of cannabis can lead to severe mental health problems! so it does have its own casualties. not that the government would be bothered by its possible harms or benefits, the only reason they havent legalised it yet is because they dont know how to gain control of it and take it from the black market into their tax system! otherwise im almost certain you could go to the offie and purchase a packet of ready rolled spliffs! lol whilst i choose not to smoke it myself anymore and wouldnt advise anyone to start i can certainly say this much..... i would rather live around pot heads than **** heads and crack heads any day! i think its ignorant to even class all cannabis smokers as "druggies" as most of them i know work hard, have great morals and a few even work with local charities! the criminality and violence is only associated with world the government have forced the drug into.... meldrew84
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9:10pm Thu 24 May 12

asbo foundation says...

simple answer is don't live around pot heads or crack heads. choose you company a bit more carefully. not sure which type of drug abuser i despise more vehemently. actually i do, make that the didactic, pompous, self righteous, pig headed, living in denial cannabis user.
simple answer is don't live around pot heads or crack heads. choose you company a bit more carefully. not sure which type of drug abuser i despise more vehemently. actually i do, make that the didactic, pompous, self righteous, pig headed, living in denial cannabis user. asbo foundation
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9:12pm Thu 24 May 12

asbo foundation says...

apologies i meant "abuser" rather than "user"
apologies i meant "abuser" rather than "user" asbo foundation
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9:13pm Thu 24 May 12

asbo foundation says...

apologies abuser should have read ABUSER and been underlined
apologies abuser should have read ABUSER and been underlined asbo foundation
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2:37pm Sat 26 May 12

essexlad08 says...

Well said last poster! He is one deluded individual!
Well said last poster! He is one deluded individual! essexlad08
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4:45pm Sat 26 May 12

Mudlark4 says...

Last Poster wrote:
Thanks for proving my point in front of all our beloved readers. You could not write a single paragraph without totally unjustified vitriol and "Do as you likey" answers. Despite two attempts you still have not answered my one simple question about alcohol. I do not understand assetions, I am sorry. You profoundly claim the cancerous habit to be as cheap as chips, yet, when I said the Rough price of a little over £12 (not including the tobacco) being expensive you reply "It costs more than that!" Yet all your insults you try to throw at people come to nothing because you yourself let your side down. The information you have obviously pulled from "The Sun" impresses me about as much as Cameron's "I know nothing about any deal with Murdoch over BSkyB" If you feel you must defend the drugs you cherish so much, and if a fraction of the claims you make about your "Coaching" at your grandsons' club are true then try a simple test to prove a point. 1/ Come off the funny fags for a week. If you can, and better still, can then be honest about it, try reading my posts again. Now see if you can understand what I have written about my personal use of alcohol. Now can you see what I have written? No, nothing about death crashes and hospitals and the rest of the drivel you were quoting. Purely my son and I going out for a couple or three pints (Walking) to my local. Incidentally, as frequently as about once every three months or so! Now point out to this dinosaur the dangers please. Do you now see what the drugs did to you and you did not even know? 2/ Go to your grandson's club with a printout of this thread, see the committee or whoever manages it and show him the thread. Now, point out to him that "Aint it the truth" is the smokescreen you use when you er, compose? 3/ Take a long hard look at yourself now. Still involved with kids? 4/ If yes, then please tell me the name of the club so I can do a simple check and then I will do what I can try to save some of these kids. From you.
Brilliant well thought out post last poster.
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Incidently the illegal pot smoker also quotes, "HMG Social Attitudes Survey and stats", Can you provide the actual link to exactly where it quotes this on the website please.
Its just that I have concerns that you claim they say half the population now agree to legalise pot, Dont they have to survey the whole population to conclude this? if so I havnt and people I have just spoken to say they havnt ever seen a survey asking for his information, which would leave the survey flawed somewhat.
[quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: Thanks for proving my point in front of all our beloved readers. You could not write a single paragraph without totally unjustified vitriol and "Do as you likey" answers. Despite two attempts you still have not answered my one simple question about alcohol. I do not understand assetions, I am sorry. You profoundly claim the cancerous habit to be as cheap as chips, yet, when I said the Rough price of a little over £12 (not including the tobacco) being expensive you reply "It costs more than that!" Yet all your insults you try to throw at people come to nothing because you yourself let your side down. The information you have obviously pulled from "The Sun" impresses me about as much as Cameron's "I know nothing about any deal with Murdoch over BSkyB" If you feel you must defend the drugs you cherish so much, and if a fraction of the claims you make about your "Coaching" at your grandsons' club are true then try a simple test to prove a point. 1/ Come off the funny fags for a week. If you can, and better still, can then be honest about it, try reading my posts again. Now see if you can understand what I have written about my personal use of alcohol. Now can you see what I have written? No, nothing about death crashes and hospitals and the rest of the drivel you were quoting. Purely my son and I going out for a couple or three pints (Walking) to my local. Incidentally, as frequently as about once every three months or so! Now point out to this dinosaur the dangers please. Do you now see what the drugs did to you and you did not even know? 2/ Go to your grandson's club with a printout of this thread, see the committee or whoever manages it and show him the thread. Now, point out to him that "Aint it the truth" is the smokescreen you use when you er, compose? 3/ Take a long hard look at yourself now. Still involved with kids? 4/ If yes, then please tell me the name of the club so I can do a simple check and then I will do what I can try to save some of these kids. From you.[/p][/quote]Brilliant well thought out post last poster. ** Incidently the illegal pot smoker also quotes, "HMG Social Attitudes Survey and stats", Can you provide the actual link to exactly where it quotes this on the website please. Its just that I have concerns that you claim they say half the population now agree to legalise pot, Dont they have to survey the whole population to conclude this? if so I havnt and people I have just spoken to say they havnt ever seen a survey asking for his information, which would leave the survey flawed somewhat. Mudlark4
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12:37am Sun 27 May 12

Aint it just the truth says...

PS if you want to talk risk assessment try looking at the national stats for deaths due to horse riding, bees stings, peanut butter, windows, glass doors, paracetomol, the list goes on ... all MUCH more dangerous than the herb, perhaps we ought to ban everything, except your favourote tipple of course. Doh.
PS if you want to talk risk assessment try looking at the national stats for deaths due to horse riding, bees stings, peanut butter, windows, glass doors, paracetomol, the list goes on ... all MUCH more dangerous than the herb, perhaps we ought to ban everything, except your favourote tipple of course. Doh. Aint it just the truth
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9:42am Sun 27 May 12

Nebs says...

Once again you fail to reference your sources, instead just saying Look It Up. Have you looked up the long term damage cannabis can do to some users, and the grief it can cause them and their families. Look it up.
Could you give me a clue as to what you mean by miniscule, can you put a number to it, or don't you know, or is it that you just don't want to share your information.
Once again you fail to reference your sources, instead just saying Look It Up. Have you looked up the long term damage cannabis can do to some users, and the grief it can cause them and their families. Look it up. Could you give me a clue as to what you mean by miniscule, can you put a number to it, or don't you know, or is it that you just don't want to share your information. Nebs
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1:16pm Sun 27 May 12

asbo foundation says...

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth
our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence - yeah. high five me untruth asbo foundation
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1:18pm Sun 27 May 12

It's the truth says...

One of you dozy bigots has had my account stopped, obviously because you don't like the truth so just for you lot here is what I posted last before it was wiped off. Once upon a time the schools and other agencies used to tell the kids that cannabis was a terrible dangerous drug but they found this did not work because the kids knew better. Now, and for the last 25 or so years the teachers tell the kids the TRUTH, they teach the kids that cannabis is a mild drug that will not kill you but it's best to avoid it whilst you are a young teen. This works much better as it's the truth. Did you get that you morons? THE TRUTH!
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Can't be bothered Nebs, aren't you capable of looking up stuff yourself? The Govt Minister concerned actually said the "numbers are tiny". Now go look at the NHS site yourself to find the actual numbers.
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One thing that is perfectly clear is that none of you muppets knows the slightest thing about cannabis and yet you all have really strong views on the subject. No sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually knew something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots. All of you.
One of you dozy bigots has had my account stopped, obviously because you don't like the truth so just for you lot here is what I posted last before it was wiped off. Once upon a time the schools and other agencies used to tell the kids that cannabis was a terrible dangerous drug but they found this did not work because the kids knew better. Now, and for the last 25 or so years the teachers tell the kids the TRUTH, they teach the kids that cannabis is a mild drug that will not kill you but it's best to avoid it whilst you are a young teen. This works much better as it's the truth. Did you get that you morons? THE TRUTH! . Can't be bothered Nebs, aren't you capable of looking up stuff yourself? The Govt Minister concerned actually said the "numbers are tiny". Now go look at the NHS site yourself to find the actual numbers. . One thing that is perfectly clear is that none of you muppets knows the slightest thing about cannabis and yet you all have really strong views on the subject. No sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually knew something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots. All of you. It's the truth
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4:17pm Sun 27 May 12

Nebs says...

It's the truth wrote:
One of you dozy bigots has had my account stopped, obviously because you don't like the truth so just for you lot here is what I posted last before it was wiped off. Once upon a time the schools and other agencies used to tell the kids that cannabis was a terrible dangerous drug but they found this did not work because the kids knew better. Now, and for the last 25 or so years the teachers tell the kids the TRUTH, they teach the kids that cannabis is a mild drug that will not kill you but it's best to avoid it whilst you are a young teen. This works much better as it's the truth. Did you get that you morons? THE TRUTH!
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Can't be bothered Nebs, aren't you capable of looking up stuff yourself? The Govt Minister concerned actually said the "numbers are tiny". Now go look at the NHS site yourself to find the actual numbers.
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One thing that is perfectly clear is that none of you muppets knows the slightest thing about cannabis and yet you all have really strong views on the subject. No sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually knew something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots. All of you.
In an effort to find the cause of your constant abuse I happened across this website.

http://www.mentalhel
p.net/poc/view_doc.p
hp?type=doc&id=8482

Amongst other causes, it says: Abusive behavior can also result from mental health issues or disorders. For example, someone with anger management issues, a diagnosis of intermittent explosive disorder, or a drinking or drug problem may easily get out of control during arguments (e.g., because there is something wrong with their ability to inhibit themselves at the brain level) and verbally or physically strike out at their partners and dependents.

On the plus side, it does seem that there is plenty of help available.
[quote][p][bold]It's the truth[/bold] wrote: One of you dozy bigots has had my account stopped, obviously because you don't like the truth so just for you lot here is what I posted last before it was wiped off. Once upon a time the schools and other agencies used to tell the kids that cannabis was a terrible dangerous drug but they found this did not work because the kids knew better. Now, and for the last 25 or so years the teachers tell the kids the TRUTH, they teach the kids that cannabis is a mild drug that will not kill you but it's best to avoid it whilst you are a young teen. This works much better as it's the truth. Did you get that you morons? THE TRUTH! . Can't be bothered Nebs, aren't you capable of looking up stuff yourself? The Govt Minister concerned actually said the "numbers are tiny". Now go look at the NHS site yourself to find the actual numbers. . One thing that is perfectly clear is that none of you muppets knows the slightest thing about cannabis and yet you all have really strong views on the subject. No sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually knew something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots. All of you.[/p][/quote]In an effort to find the cause of your constant abuse I happened across this website. http://www.mentalhel p.net/poc/view_doc.p hp?type=doc&id=8482 Amongst other causes, it says: Abusive behavior can also result from mental health issues or disorders. For example, someone with anger management issues, a diagnosis of intermittent explosive disorder, or a drinking or drug problem may easily get out of control during arguments (e.g., because there is something wrong with their ability to inhibit themselves at the brain level) and verbally or physically strike out at their partners and dependents. On the plus side, it does seem that there is plenty of help available. Nebs
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4:35pm Sun 27 May 12

It's the truth says...

I don't have anger issues, I'm just telling it like it is - that no sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually know something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots.
I don't have anger issues, I'm just telling it like it is - that no sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually know something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots. It's the truth
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7:31pm Sun 27 May 12

Last Poster says...

It's the truth wrote:
I don't have anger issues, I'm just telling it like it is - that no sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually know something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots.
You have lost the plot. Nebs has actually found the site where they address your problem.

You go instantly and unceasingly in denial. Can you not calm down, restrain yourself from the constant inane insults you throw at every person who is not in rapport with your off the planet viewpoint.

The only hope I have for you is that you are, in fact, in your pre-teens and engaging in a "Toys out of the pram" episode. If so, providing you try to stop your dependency on the drug, and it's associated nicotine habit, you could still turn out to be a nice, fairly well-balanced lad. Conversely, if you are an adult, then as is obvious to the majority who are sensible balanced adults, you are probably too late to save yourself. Mind you, even sitting down, reading the posts of the people who are not pushers or hop heads, trying to understand the message in the postings and following the advice given in your interest instead of trying to think up other ways of insulting the good people for their good intentions then who knows? you could surprise even your sad self! Oh and remember, abusing a drug dulls your thinking. Do you seriously think you know anything about the drug? Bet's on whether you even know the genus of the plant!
[quote][p][bold]It's the truth[/bold] wrote: I don't have anger issues, I'm just telling it like it is - that no sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually know something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots.[/p][/quote]You have lost the plot. Nebs has actually found the site where they address your problem. You go instantly and unceasingly in denial. Can you not calm down, restrain yourself from the constant inane insults you throw at every person who is not in rapport with your off the planet viewpoint. The only hope I have for you is that you are, in fact, in your pre-teens and engaging in a "Toys out of the pram" episode. If so, providing you try to stop your dependency on the drug, and it's associated nicotine habit, you could still turn out to be a nice, fairly well-balanced lad. Conversely, if you are an adult, then as is obvious to the majority who are sensible balanced adults, you are probably too late to save yourself. Mind you, even sitting down, reading the posts of the people who are not pushers or hop heads, trying to understand the message in the postings and following the advice given in your interest instead of trying to think up other ways of insulting the good people for their good intentions then who knows? you could surprise even your sad self! Oh and remember, abusing a drug dulls your thinking. Do you seriously think you know anything about the drug? Bet's on whether you even know the genus of the plant! Last Poster
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8:10pm Sun 27 May 12

asbo foundation says...

It's the truth wrote:
One of you dozy bigots has had my account stopped, obviously because you don't like the truth so just for you lot here is what I posted last before it was wiped off. Once upon a time the schools and other agencies used to tell the kids that cannabis was a terrible dangerous drug but they found this did not work because the kids knew better. Now, and for the last 25 or so years the teachers tell the kids the TRUTH, they teach the kids that cannabis is a mild drug that will not kill you but it's best to avoid it whilst you are a young teen. This works much better as it's the truth. Did you get that you morons? THE TRUTH!
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Can't be bothered Nebs, aren't you capable of looking up stuff yourself? The Govt Minister concerned actually said the "numbers are tiny". Now go look at the NHS site yourself to find the actual numbers.
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One thing that is perfectly clear is that none of you muppets knows the slightest thing about cannabis and yet you all have really strong views on the subject. No sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually knew something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots. All of you.
thought we might see a reappearance of biffo?
[quote][p][bold]It's the truth[/bold] wrote: One of you dozy bigots has had my account stopped, obviously because you don't like the truth so just for you lot here is what I posted last before it was wiped off. Once upon a time the schools and other agencies used to tell the kids that cannabis was a terrible dangerous drug but they found this did not work because the kids knew better. Now, and for the last 25 or so years the teachers tell the kids the TRUTH, they teach the kids that cannabis is a mild drug that will not kill you but it's best to avoid it whilst you are a young teen. This works much better as it's the truth. Did you get that you morons? THE TRUTH! . Can't be bothered Nebs, aren't you capable of looking up stuff yourself? The Govt Minister concerned actually said the "numbers are tiny". Now go look at the NHS site yourself to find the actual numbers. . One thing that is perfectly clear is that none of you muppets knows the slightest thing about cannabis and yet you all have really strong views on the subject. No sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually knew something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots. All of you.[/p][/quote]thought we might see a reappearance of biffo? asbo foundation
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8:30pm Sun 27 May 12

It's the truth says...

Last Poster wrote:
It's the truth wrote: I don't have anger issues, I'm just telling it like it is - that no sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually know something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots.
You have lost the plot. Nebs has actually found the site where they address your problem. You go instantly and unceasingly in denial. Can you not calm down, restrain yourself from the constant inane insults you throw at every person who is not in rapport with your off the planet viewpoint. The only hope I have for you is that you are, in fact, in your pre-teens and engaging in a "Toys out of the pram" episode. If so, providing you try to stop your dependency on the drug, and it's associated nicotine habit, you could still turn out to be a nice, fairly well-balanced lad. Conversely, if you are an adult, then as is obvious to the majority who are sensible balanced adults, you are probably too late to save yourself. Mind you, even sitting down, reading the posts of the people who are not pushers or hop heads, trying to understand the message in the postings and following the advice given in your interest instead of trying to think up other ways of insulting the good people for their good intentions then who knows? you could surprise even your sad self! Oh and remember, abusing a drug dulls your thinking. Do you seriously think you know anything about the drug? Bet's on whether you even know the genus of the plant!
Certainly not me who is in denial matey. I know dozens of people who have toked for over forty years with absolutely no problem whatsoever. Cannabis is without doubt the safest recreational drug in the world. No-one denies that some people can have problems but the numbers are tiny compared to alcohol and tobacco casualties and unlike alcohol and tobacco cannabis will not kill you. If you had an ounce of intelligence in that dormant organ between your ears you would have to admit that there are some powerful arguments for legalising cannabis but you don't which just confirms that your brainbox isn't working. Suggest you see a doctor quick.
[quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]It's the truth[/bold] wrote: I don't have anger issues, I'm just telling it like it is - that no sensible person would dream of forming an opinion about something unless they actually know something about the subject which shows you lot up for what you are, ignorant uneducated opinionated bigots.[/p][/quote]You have lost the plot. Nebs has actually found the site where they address your problem. You go instantly and unceasingly in denial. Can you not calm down, restrain yourself from the constant inane insults you throw at every person who is not in rapport with your off the planet viewpoint. The only hope I have for you is that you are, in fact, in your pre-teens and engaging in a "Toys out of the pram" episode. If so, providing you try to stop your dependency on the drug, and it's associated nicotine habit, you could still turn out to be a nice, fairly well-balanced lad. Conversely, if you are an adult, then as is obvious to the majority who are sensible balanced adults, you are probably too late to save yourself. Mind you, even sitting down, reading the posts of the people who are not pushers or hop heads, trying to understand the message in the postings and following the advice given in your interest instead of trying to think up other ways of insulting the good people for their good intentions then who knows? you could surprise even your sad self! Oh and remember, abusing a drug dulls your thinking. Do you seriously think you know anything about the drug? Bet's on whether you even know the genus of the plant![/p][/quote]Certainly not me who is in denial matey. I know dozens of people who have toked for over forty years with absolutely no problem whatsoever. Cannabis is without doubt the safest recreational drug in the world. No-one denies that some people can have problems but the numbers are tiny compared to alcohol and tobacco casualties and unlike alcohol and tobacco cannabis will not kill you. If you had an ounce of intelligence in that dormant organ between your ears you would have to admit that there are some powerful arguments for legalising cannabis but you don't which just confirms that your brainbox isn't working. Suggest you see a doctor quick. It's the truth
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11:55pm Sun 27 May 12

Last Poster says...

It's the truth:
You really do not get it do you?
You cannot get through a post without being personal towards the one to whom you address that post, insulting their intelligence, their faith their beliefs in fact, anything that might help convince your customers that they will get a good deal from your particular version of the drug you crave.
What other reason could you possibly have to try (and fail) to offend anybody who does not agree with you. What does it matter to you if I love or hate the substance you are addicted to? If you sincerely believe the rubbish you mix with your nicotine addiction (Go on tell me tobacco is harmless, and I will tell you how safe it is to go to war with a nuclear super power!)can only be good, then 90 million people here have much to learn.
You steadfastly refuse to back up any of your accusations to me, and all I am trying to do is wipe out the distribution and sale of these terrible compounds you seem to be trying to push on here! If you, as a supposed adult (referred to in the previous post of mine!) want to smoke yourself to death then go ahead, it is now your right. But, if you want to continue telling others it is the best thing they can do then, for anybody with children or grandchildren, or indeed anyone who cares about this countries' future, then you will make many, many enemies. Also, if someone in authority thinks as I do, then they will get your details and check you out. Meanwhile, try and develop some civility in your posting. Only the weak and feckless argue by insult instead of reason!
It's the truth: You really do not get it do you? You cannot get through a post without being personal towards the one to whom you address that post, insulting their intelligence, their faith their beliefs in fact, anything that might help convince your customers that they will get a good deal from your particular version of the drug you crave. What other reason could you possibly have to try (and fail) to offend anybody who does not agree with you. What does it matter to you if I love or hate the substance you are addicted to? If you sincerely believe the rubbish you mix with your nicotine addiction (Go on tell me tobacco is harmless, and I will tell you how safe it is to go to war with a nuclear super power!)can only be good, then 90 million people here have much to learn. You steadfastly refuse to back up any of your accusations to me, and all I am trying to do is wipe out the distribution and sale of these terrible compounds you seem to be trying to push on here! If you, as a supposed adult (referred to in the previous post of mine!) want to smoke yourself to death then go ahead, it is now your right. But, if you want to continue telling others it is the best thing they can do then, for anybody with children or grandchildren, or indeed anyone who cares about this countries' future, then you will make many, many enemies. Also, if someone in authority thinks as I do, then they will get your details and check you out. Meanwhile, try and develop some civility in your posting. Only the weak and feckless argue by insult instead of reason! Last Poster
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10:18am Mon 28 May 12

Last Poster says...

It's the truth wrote:
Can't even be bothered to read your drivel LP - ooh! just caught your last line.
I am the only one "arguing by reason" you ignoramus, you are just spouting bigoted rubbish that bears no relation to reality. You should be ashamed that you have argued so much about a subject you know nothing about. Go on, tell us all your experience with cannabis?
Well I tried. You simply are unreachable. You read but do not digest. You insult but are without character yourself, so insults from you are meaningless. Lastly, your singularity and total drug fixation have made you impossible to reason with.
My experience with cannabis? Look up the posts, see how many reasoned arguments people have put to you and how many you managed to answer without simply resorting to abuse. Who would want to live on your planet. Normal people can still enjoy life in all it's reality. Sadly, you are a drug dependant who is blinkered from reality and so does not get satisfaction from real life.

You, lad, provide as much experience of that mind perverting drug that any reasonable person on here can wish for.

My only hope ia that the sensible majority who looked here have seen for themselves exactly how it has taken your mind away from you. Meanwhile, perhaps we can chat on some other post in the future.
If you are able to hit the right keys!
[quote][p][bold]It's the truth[/bold] wrote: Can't even be bothered to read your drivel LP - ooh! just caught your last line. I am the only one "arguing by reason" you ignoramus, you are just spouting bigoted rubbish that bears no relation to reality. You should be ashamed that you have argued so much about a subject you know nothing about. Go on, tell us all your experience with cannabis?[/p][/quote]Well I tried. You simply are unreachable. You read but do not digest. You insult but are without character yourself, so insults from you are meaningless. Lastly, your singularity and total drug fixation have made you impossible to reason with. My experience with cannabis? Look up the posts, see how many reasoned arguments people have put to you and how many you managed to answer without simply resorting to abuse. Who would want to live on your planet. Normal people can still enjoy life in all it's reality. Sadly, you are a drug dependant who is blinkered from reality and so does not get satisfaction from real life. You, lad, provide as much experience of that mind perverting drug that any reasonable person on here can wish for. My only hope ia that the sensible majority who looked here have seen for themselves exactly how it has taken your mind away from you. Meanwhile, perhaps we can chat on some other post in the future. If you are able to hit the right keys! Last Poster
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3:13pm Mon 28 May 12

supersarah says...

Reply from old Truth.
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"I am unreachable!" Ha ha, that's a laugh, you are the one who is incapable of understanding plain English and simple logic. You live on your own little planet mate, completely out of touch with reality.
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Oh sorry, I'm supposed to be the one who is incapable of rational thought because I had a few puffs over the weekend. Imbecile! Your alcohol does MUCH MORE DAMAGE you fool.
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I am replying on my wife's account cos you complained about me again. You are one two faced sneaky bag of shyte mate, can't take it when someone disagrees with you, bet your relatives love you, not. Well don't worry, you won't get rid of me that easy. Byeee
Reply from old Truth. . "I am unreachable!" Ha ha, that's a laugh, you are the one who is incapable of understanding plain English and simple logic. You live on your own little planet mate, completely out of touch with reality. . Oh sorry, I'm supposed to be the one who is incapable of rational thought because I had a few puffs over the weekend. Imbecile! Your alcohol does MUCH MORE DAMAGE you fool. . I am replying on my wife's account cos you complained about me again. You are one two faced sneaky bag of shyte mate, can't take it when someone disagrees with you, bet your relatives love you, not. Well don't worry, you won't get rid of me that easy. Byeee supersarah
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5:38pm Mon 28 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Last Poster wrote:
It's the truth wrote:
Can't even be bothered to read your drivel LP - ooh! just caught your last line.
I am the only one "arguing by reason" you ignoramus, you are just spouting bigoted rubbish that bears no relation to reality. You should be ashamed that you have argued so much about a subject you know nothing about. Go on, tell us all your experience with cannabis?
Well I tried. You simply are unreachable. You read but do not digest. You insult but are without character yourself, so insults from you are meaningless. Lastly, your singularity and total drug fixation have made you impossible to reason with.
My experience with cannabis? Look up the posts, see how many reasoned arguments people have put to you and how many you managed to answer without simply resorting to abuse. Who would want to live on your planet. Normal people can still enjoy life in all it's reality. Sadly, you are a drug dependant who is blinkered from reality and so does not get satisfaction from real life.

You, lad, provide as much experience of that mind perverting drug that any reasonable person on here can wish for.

My only hope ia that the sensible majority who looked here have seen for themselves exactly how it has taken your mind away from you. Meanwhile, perhaps we can chat on some other post in the future.
If you are able to hit the right keys!
1st class entertainment. i have enjoyed taking a back seat on this one.
[quote][p][bold]Last Poster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]It's the truth[/bold] wrote: Can't even be bothered to read your drivel LP - ooh! just caught your last line. I am the only one "arguing by reason" you ignoramus, you are just spouting bigoted rubbish that bears no relation to reality. You should be ashamed that you have argued so much about a subject you know nothing about. Go on, tell us all your experience with cannabis?[/p][/quote]Well I tried. You simply are unreachable. You read but do not digest. You insult but are without character yourself, so insults from you are meaningless. Lastly, your singularity and total drug fixation have made you impossible to reason with. My experience with cannabis? Look up the posts, see how many reasoned arguments people have put to you and how many you managed to answer without simply resorting to abuse. Who would want to live on your planet. Normal people can still enjoy life in all it's reality. Sadly, you are a drug dependant who is blinkered from reality and so does not get satisfaction from real life. You, lad, provide as much experience of that mind perverting drug that any reasonable person on here can wish for. My only hope ia that the sensible majority who looked here have seen for themselves exactly how it has taken your mind away from you. Meanwhile, perhaps we can chat on some other post in the future. If you are able to hit the right keys![/p][/quote]1st class entertainment. i have enjoyed taking a back seat on this one. asbo foundation
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7:03pm Mon 28 May 12

asbo foundation says...

supersarah wrote:
Reply from old Truth.
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"I am unreachable!" Ha ha, that's a laugh, you are the one who is incapable of understanding plain English and simple logic. You live on your own little planet mate, completely out of touch with reality.
.
Oh sorry, I'm supposed to be the one who is incapable of rational thought because I had a few puffs over the weekend. Imbecile! Your alcohol does MUCH MORE DAMAGE you fool.
.
I am replying on my wife's account cos you complained about me again. You are one two faced sneaky bag of shyte mate, can't take it when someone disagrees with you, bet your relatives love you, not. Well don't worry, you won't get rid of me that easy. Byeee
ah now it fits. http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/9051330.
Crash_dad_had_smoked
_cannabis_joint/
[quote][p][bold]supersarah[/bold] wrote: Reply from old Truth. . "I am unreachable!" Ha ha, that's a laugh, you are the one who is incapable of understanding plain English and simple logic. You live on your own little planet mate, completely out of touch with reality. . Oh sorry, I'm supposed to be the one who is incapable of rational thought because I had a few puffs over the weekend. Imbecile! Your alcohol does MUCH MORE DAMAGE you fool. . I am replying on my wife's account cos you complained about me again. You are one two faced sneaky bag of shyte mate, can't take it when someone disagrees with you, bet your relatives love you, not. Well don't worry, you won't get rid of me that easy. Byeee[/p][/quote]ah now it fits. http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/9051330. Crash_dad_had_smoked _cannabis_joint/ asbo foundation
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9:12pm Mon 28 May 12

Truth Will Prevail says...

You might be right! For once...
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http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/local_ne
ws/basildon/4641177.
Another_mental_healt
h_patient_goes_on_ru
n_from_hospital/
You might be right! For once... . http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/basildon/4641177. Another_mental_healt h_patient_goes_on_ru n_from_hospital/ Truth Will Prevail
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10:09pm Mon 28 May 12

asbo foundation says...

Truth Will Prevail wrote:
You might be right! For once...
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http://www.echo-news

.co.uk/news/local_ne

ws/basildon/4641177.

Another_mental_healt

h_patient_goes_on_ru

n_from_hospital/
lol. truth will prevail... a bit earnest don't you think. i thought you might have gone with good vibrations
[quote][p][bold]Truth Will Prevail[/bold] wrote: You might be right! For once... . http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/basildon/4641177. Another_mental_healt h_patient_goes_on_ru n_from_hospital/[/p][/quote]lol. truth will prevail... a bit earnest don't you think. i thought you might have gone with good vibrations asbo foundation
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11:51am Tue 29 May 12

Truth Will Prevail says...

You should keep a lower profile asbo unless you want to be caught.
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Wot no more postings from the internet troll twins LP and Mudlark? Oh dear what a shame.
You should keep a lower profile asbo unless you want to be caught. . Wot no more postings from the internet troll twins LP and Mudlark? Oh dear what a shame. Truth Will Prevail
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1:39pm Tue 29 May 12

Truth Will Prevail says...

To Last Poster...
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I am sorry your grandson is having problems with drugs but in my experience any predisposition towards abusing drugs is ALWAYS the parents (or grandparents) fault. The issue of drugs has been raised with every teenager I have ever known, which includes my own children (now 22, 32 and 41, yes same marriage), all their friends, and all the children of our friends and relatives, and in every case the critical factor has been honesty and knowledge or lack of knowledge. The parents of the vast majority of these kids have been honest with them about drugs, they don't tell them cannabis is evil but they do warn them that there is a small but real chance of younger teenagers having problems. Not one of these kids has developed a problem with drugs whereas the the kids of parents who tell their kids that all drugs are evil have had problems. This is born out by the schools and Police who learnt 30 years ago that honesty is the best policy. Never mind anything else if you tell kids that all drugs are evil they are just as likely to try truly dangerous drugs like heroin as they are to have a few puffs on a joint. In conclusion if your grandson has problems with drugs I strongly suggest you look closer to home for the reasons why. You know it makes sense.
To Last Poster... . I am sorry your grandson is having problems with drugs but in my experience any predisposition towards abusing drugs is ALWAYS the parents (or grandparents) fault. The issue of drugs has been raised with every teenager I have ever known, which includes my own children (now 22, 32 and 41, yes same marriage), all their friends, and all the children of our friends and relatives, and in every case the critical factor has been honesty and knowledge or lack of knowledge. The parents of the vast majority of these kids have been honest with them about drugs, they don't tell them cannabis is evil but they do warn them that there is a small but real chance of younger teenagers having problems. Not one of these kids has developed a problem with drugs whereas the the kids of parents who tell their kids that all drugs are evil have had problems. This is born out by the schools and Police who learnt 30 years ago that honesty is the best policy. Never mind anything else if you tell kids that all drugs are evil they are just as likely to try truly dangerous drugs like heroin as they are to have a few puffs on a joint. In conclusion if your grandson has problems with drugs I strongly suggest you look closer to home for the reasons why. You know it makes sense. Truth Will Prevail
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1:39pm Tue 29 May 12

Truth Will Prevail says...

To Last Poster...
.
I am sorry your grandson is having problems with drugs but in my experience any predisposition towards abusing drugs is ALWAYS the parents (or grandparents) fault. The issue of drugs has been raised with every teenager I have ever known, which includes my own children (now 22, 32 and 41, yes same marriage), all their friends, and all the children of our friends and relatives, and in every case the critical factor has been honesty and knowledge or lack of knowledge. The parents of the vast majority of these kids have been honest with them about drugs, they don't tell them cannabis is evil but they do warn them that there is a small but real chance of younger teenagers having problems. Not one of these kids has developed a problem with drugs whereas the the kids of parents who tell their kids that all drugs are evil have had problems. This is born out by the schools and Police who learnt 30 years ago that honesty is the best policy. Never mind anything else if you tell kids that all drugs are evil they are just as likely to try truly dangerous drugs like heroin as they are to have a few puffs on a joint. In conclusion if your grandson has problems with drugs I strongly suggest you look closer to home for the reasons why. You know it makes sense.
To Last Poster... . I am sorry your grandson is having problems with drugs but in my experience any predisposition towards abusing drugs is ALWAYS the parents (or grandparents) fault. The issue of drugs has been raised with every teenager I have ever known, which includes my own children (now 22, 32 and 41, yes same marriage), all their friends, and all the children of our friends and relatives, and in every case the critical factor has been honesty and knowledge or lack of knowledge. The parents of the vast majority of these kids have been honest with them about drugs, they don't tell them cannabis is evil but they do warn them that there is a small but real chance of younger teenagers having problems. Not one of these kids has developed a problem with drugs whereas the the kids of parents who tell their kids that all drugs are evil have had problems. This is born out by the schools and Police who learnt 30 years ago that honesty is the best policy. Never mind anything else if you tell kids that all drugs are evil they are just as likely to try truly dangerous drugs like heroin as they are to have a few puffs on a joint. In conclusion if your grandson has problems with drugs I strongly suggest you look closer to home for the reasons why. You know it makes sense. Truth Will Prevail
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