Witham: Historic market charter may never have existed

The current site of Witham's Saturday market, in Lockrams Lane The current site of Witham's Saturday market, in Lockrams Lane

A royal charter allowing a market to be held in Witham may never have existed, according to a Government lawyer.

Traders and town councillors want to move the town’s market to Newland Street, claiming Witham Town Council should be allowed to manage the market due to the historic charter.

But, after the town council asked the National Association of Local Councils (NALC) for a history of the charter, it has been revealed there is no evidence of it being valid since the 16th century.

Full story in the Witham and Braintree Times.

Comments (6)

7:50am Thu 11 Oct 12

Bhudeeka says...

do they have housing development in mind? they will all do anything to deny charters and covenents to get what they want and iwll no doubt win vile people councils and governments
do they have housing development in mind? they will all do anything to deny charters and covenents to get what they want and iwll no doubt win vile people councils and governments Bhudeeka

11:43am Thu 11 Oct 12

keith_l says...

Bhudeeka - no this is not about housing development. It's about moving the market onto Newlands Street, so people using the market will then also support the shops and stop yet more closing down, or being turned into nail bars, bookies, charity shops, etc. This has been an ongoing story for a couple of years.
Bhudeeka - no this is not about housing development. It's about moving the market onto Newlands Street, so people using the market will then also support the shops and stop yet more closing down, or being turned into nail bars, bookies, charity shops, etc. This has been an ongoing story for a couple of years. keith_l

2:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

sKorch says...

Also, Bhudeeka, its about the existance of a Royal Charter for the market. It would appear that the original Royal Charter ( issued in the 10th century) has been passed from hand-to-hand and has become non-valid since the 14th Century.So Witham Town Council cannot use the fact of the existance of a Royal Charter to enable them to take over the market and move it to Newland Street. Jeesh, I wish you would read the facts before moaning.
Ta-Ta
Also, Bhudeeka, its about the existance of a Royal Charter for the market. It would appear that the original Royal Charter ( issued in the 10th century) has been passed from hand-to-hand and has become non-valid since the 14th Century.So Witham Town Council cannot use the fact of the existance of a Royal Charter to enable them to take over the market and move it to Newland Street. Jeesh, I wish you would read the facts before moaning. Ta-Ta sKorch

8:23am Fri 12 Oct 12

Bhudeeka says...

oh dear keith-1 and Skorch touched a nerve have I?Since when does a binding document become invalid other than at the choice of those in power to change th law to suit themselves? Thats right it doesnt it is every bit as valid now as then. If I want to say that I believe this current market land will be used for housing I WILL. Explain to me how moving it will make the slightest difference to the shps?! By the way sKorch it appears I bug you trust me when i tell you tough i really dont care and my comments on all stories stand and i do read the facts and can see between the lines unlike you two
oh dear keith-1 and Skorch touched a nerve have I?Since when does a binding document become invalid other than at the choice of those in power to change th law to suit themselves? Thats right it doesnt it is every bit as valid now as then. If I want to say that I believe this current market land will be used for housing I WILL. Explain to me how moving it will make the slightest difference to the shps?! By the way sKorch it appears I bug you trust me when i tell you tough i really dont care and my comments on all stories stand and i do read the facts and can see between the lines unlike you two Bhudeeka

2:11pm Fri 12 Oct 12

sKorch says...

Sigh---let me tell you a story Bhudeeka,
Once upon a time there was King who ruled over his people but saw that the amount of taxes they had to pay was leaving them with hardly anything.
Huum, thought the King, the peasants may revolt. So he decided to grant them a way to make money and keep it without paying a tax on it. He decided to allow them to run a Market and the document that gave them this right was called a Royal Charter.
Now sadly the King (lets call him King A ) died and King B took over and let the rule stand.
King B was followed by King C on his death and so it went on.
Then, one day a Prince in another Country wanted to be a King but didn't want to kill his father to become King so he thought....If I invade another Country so that I can become King of there.
And so it came to pass that the Prince invaded and killed the King and then become King W.
Now King W didn't like King A and so made a proclamation that ALL King A's Royal Charters were now invalid and the people would have to apply for a new Royal Charter.
Sadly, it would appear, Witham did not apply for a new Royal Charter and so their charter given by King A was now useless.
I hope you like my story.
Byeeeeeeeeeee
Sigh---let me tell you a story Bhudeeka, Once upon a time there was King who ruled over his people but saw that the amount of taxes they had to pay was leaving them with hardly anything. Huum, thought the King, the peasants may revolt. So he decided to grant them a way to make money and keep it without paying a tax on it. He decided to allow them to run a Market and the document that gave them this right was called a Royal Charter. Now sadly the King (lets call him King A ) died and King B took over and let the rule stand. King B was followed by King C on his death and so it went on. Then, one day a Prince in another Country wanted to be a King but didn't want to kill his father to become King so he thought....If I invade another Country so that I can become King of there. And so it came to pass that the Prince invaded and killed the King and then become King W. Now King W didn't like King A and so made a proclamation that ALL King A's Royal Charters were now invalid and the people would have to apply for a new Royal Charter. Sadly, it would appear, Witham did not apply for a new Royal Charter and so their charter given by King A was now useless. I hope you like my story. Byeeeeeeeeeee sKorch

2:50pm Fri 12 Oct 12

keith_l says...

Moving the market to in front of the shops will mean that people visiting the market walk past the shops. Witham Chamber of Commerce, and the town council, both think that some of those walking past will go in and spend money.

No, you haven't touched a nerve, I was just expressing an equally valid view that happened to disagree with yours. No need to react so defensively.
Moving the market to in front of the shops will mean that people visiting the market walk past the shops. Witham Chamber of Commerce, and the town council, both think that some of those walking past will go in and spend money. No, you haven't touched a nerve, I was just expressing an equally valid view that happened to disagree with yours. No need to react so defensively. keith_l

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