New Morrisons M Local to open in Witham tomorrow

New Morrisons M Local to open in Witham tomorrow

New Morrisons M Local to open in Witham tomorrow

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Morrisons has announced it will be opening its new store tomorrow.

The Morrisons M local has created 20 new jobs in Witham and has taken over the former Jack and Jenny pub premises, in Hatfield Road.

The store will be opened at 9am by children from Chipping Hill, Howbridge and Holy Family primary schools.

 

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9:40am Fri 27 Jun 14

b913d3df@opayq.com says...

As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.
As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives. b913d3df@opayq.com
  • Score: -9

10:11am Fri 27 Jun 14

Rose77 says...

b913d3df@opayq.com wrote:
As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.
I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate.
[quote][p][bold]b913d3df@opayq.com[/bold] wrote: As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.[/p][/quote]I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate. Rose77
  • Score: 9

12:51pm Fri 27 Jun 14

The Stinker Returns says...

Rose77 wrote:
b913d3df@opayq.com wrote:
As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.
I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate.
My thoughts entirely. Presumably when it was a pub there were deliveries, customers in cars etc? How very selfish to expect people to make alternative arrangements to satisfy your requirements.
[quote][p][bold]Rose77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b913d3df@opayq.com[/bold] wrote: As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.[/p][/quote]I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate.[/p][/quote]My thoughts entirely. Presumably when it was a pub there were deliveries, customers in cars etc? How very selfish to expect people to make alternative arrangements to satisfy your requirements. The Stinker Returns
  • Score: 4

1:22pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Bhudeeka says...

b913d3df@opayq.com i totally agree with you amazing how everyone expects us to put up with all theire noise and enforced nuisances and apparently just shut up and get on with it well we wont
b913d3df@opayq.com i totally agree with you amazing how everyone expects us to put up with all theire noise and enforced nuisances and apparently just shut up and get on with it well we wont Bhudeeka
  • Score: -4

3:52pm Fri 27 Jun 14

b913d3df@opayq.com says...

The Stinker Returns wrote:
Rose77 wrote:
b913d3df@opayq.com wrote:
As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.
I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate.
My thoughts entirely. Presumably when it was a pub there were deliveries, customers in cars etc? How very selfish to expect people to make alternative arrangements to satisfy your requirements.
No one is complaining about the cars, just the deliveries 7 days a week at 5am in the morning and 10pm or later at night. Which is not something that happened when the pub was here or I guess is something that those who responded negatively to have to live with? So you are saying we have to live with it for your convenience and Morrions profits? We had one of their trucks here with a noisy refrigerator for 2 hours the other night ratling away but I guess that is fine as long as it suits you?

As for the 15 minute walk, there are three other stores in less than 10 minutes walk from here, and you can get to the centre of Witham within 10 minutes from here so it is not as if we are short of stores.
[quote][p][bold]The Stinker Returns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rose77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b913d3df@opayq.com[/bold] wrote: As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.[/p][/quote]I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate.[/p][/quote]My thoughts entirely. Presumably when it was a pub there were deliveries, customers in cars etc? How very selfish to expect people to make alternative arrangements to satisfy your requirements.[/p][/quote]No one is complaining about the cars, just the deliveries 7 days a week at 5am in the morning and 10pm or later at night. Which is not something that happened when the pub was here or I guess is something that those who responded negatively to have to live with? So you are saying we have to live with it for your convenience and Morrions profits? We had one of their trucks here with a noisy refrigerator for 2 hours the other night ratling away but I guess that is fine as long as it suits you? As for the 15 minute walk, there are three other stores in less than 10 minutes walk from here, and you can get to the centre of Witham within 10 minutes from here so it is not as if we are short of stores. b913d3df@opayq.com
  • Score: -1

3:56pm Fri 27 Jun 14

b913d3df@opayq.com says...

Rose77 wrote:
b913d3df@opayq.com wrote:
As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.
I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate.
Not sure where you live, as there are already 3 stores less than 15 minutes from this one, and the centre of Witham is less than 15 minutes away. As for 20 jobs, any proof they are new full time jobs or just transfers from the existing store?

The problem is not the cars, it is the anti-social disturbance of the deliveries that is the issue. Morrisons refused to engage with anyone on this and now they admit they will be delivering in the early morning (5am onwards) and late at night (up to and possibly beyond 11pm) Why should any resident have to put with the associated noise of refrigerated trucks. On Wednesday a truck was rattling away for nearly two hours, and today the first arrived at 0550 with its noise and reversing beeps. Believe it or not some people like to sleep in their homes. Is that too much to ask?
[quote][p][bold]Rose77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b913d3df@opayq.com[/bold] wrote: As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.[/p][/quote]I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate.[/p][/quote]Not sure where you live, as there are already 3 stores less than 15 minutes from this one, and the centre of Witham is less than 15 minutes away. As for 20 jobs, any proof they are new full time jobs or just transfers from the existing store? The problem is not the cars, it is the anti-social disturbance of the deliveries that is the issue. Morrisons refused to engage with anyone on this and now they admit they will be delivering in the early morning (5am onwards) and late at night (up to and possibly beyond 11pm) Why should any resident have to put with the associated noise of refrigerated trucks. On Wednesday a truck was rattling away for nearly two hours, and today the first arrived at 0550 with its noise and reversing beeps. Believe it or not some people like to sleep in their homes. Is that too much to ask? b913d3df@opayq.com
  • Score: 0

3:57pm Fri 27 Jun 14

b913d3df@opayq.com says...

The Stinker Returns wrote:
Rose77 wrote:
b913d3df@opayq.com wrote:
As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.
I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate.
My thoughts entirely. Presumably when it was a pub there were deliveries, customers in cars etc? How very selfish to expect people to make alternative arrangements to satisfy your requirements.
See above and below - it's selfish to want sleep is it?
[quote][p][bold]The Stinker Returns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rose77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b913d3df@opayq.com[/bold] wrote: As one of the local residents living next to this site, and having had the misfortune to deal with Morrisons, we would ask anyone thinking of shopping here to consider alternatives as we now get refrigerated lorries arriving before 6am and also late in the evening. The noise is horrendous. Please use Nisa, Spar or Tesco's, or the Aldi when it arrives.[/p][/quote]I am sorry you feel this way, but you are asking other people to do the very thing that is causing you upset - i.e. drive their vehicles (which could also be noisy!) to a store further away so that you aren't disturbed, but other residents will be!! The opening of this store has created 20 jobs and I welcome being able to walk less than 15 minutes to a store to buy 4 pints of milk and other sundry items. I won't have to use my car, thus reducing pollution and noise and will be supporting a local business and keeping people in employment. The long term plan for the Maltings estate is to build more houses and shops (Aldi, for example) so unfortunately increased noise is something we will all have to tolerate.[/p][/quote]My thoughts entirely. Presumably when it was a pub there were deliveries, customers in cars etc? How very selfish to expect people to make alternative arrangements to satisfy your requirements.[/p][/quote]See above and below - it's selfish to want sleep is it? b913d3df@opayq.com
  • Score: 0

4:38pm Fri 27 Jun 14

b913d3df@opayq.com says...

Due to a loophole in the law Morrisons, the noise issue was not able to be considered by the local planners. Morrisons refused to discuss details of deliveries as it became apparent that refrigerated trucks would be used and due to limitations of the site (it will be difficult to manoeuvre a lorry in the car park when it is open) and they would have to deliver out of the opening hours which are 0600-2300 seven days a week, so we get little respite, even on Sundays. Not sure how it is selfish expecting a company to have some degree of consideration? Or should they be allowed to disturb people without any regard? I'd be interested in your views, and whether you'd be happy to live with this or why we should have to put with this entirely unnecessary and avoidable disturbance?

Here's the racket a Morrisons truck makes at the site (the engine is off by the way) that we had for 2 hours on a warm summers evening earlier this week, close to homes. https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=JnARY03Q
I6Y Don't forget to turn up the volume so you can hear it drown out the traffic on the main road.

That is in addition to the unecesarily bright lighting which the planners have had to impost strict conditions on due to the excessive light that shines directly into adjoining homes.
Due to a loophole in the law Morrisons, the noise issue was not able to be considered by the local planners. Morrisons refused to discuss details of deliveries as it became apparent that refrigerated trucks would be used and due to limitations of the site (it will be difficult to manoeuvre a lorry in the car park when it is open) and they would have to deliver out of the opening hours which are 0600-2300 seven days a week, so we get little respite, even on Sundays. Not sure how it is selfish expecting a company to have some degree of consideration? Or should they be allowed to disturb people without any regard? I'd be interested in your views, and whether you'd be happy to live with this or why we should have to put with this entirely unnecessary and avoidable disturbance? Here's the racket a Morrisons truck makes at the site (the engine is off by the way) that we had for 2 hours on a warm summers evening earlier this week, close to homes. https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=JnARY03Q I6Y Don't forget to turn up the volume so you can hear it drown out the traffic on the main road. That is in addition to the unecesarily bright lighting which the planners have had to impost strict conditions on due to the excessive light that shines directly into adjoining homes. b913d3df@opayq.com
  • Score: 0

7:37pm Sat 28 Jun 14

/@|_|@\ says...

b913d3df@opayq.com wrote:
Due to a loophole in the law Morrisons, the noise issue was not able to be considered by the local planners. Morrisons refused to discuss details of deliveries as it became apparent that refrigerated trucks would be used and due to limitations of the site (it will be difficult to manoeuvre a lorry in the car park when it is open) and they would have to deliver out of the opening hours which are 0600-2300 seven days a week, so we get little respite, even on Sundays. Not sure how it is selfish expecting a company to have some degree of consideration? Or should they be allowed to disturb people without any regard? I'd be interested in your views, and whether you'd be happy to live with this or why we should have to put with this entirely unnecessary and avoidable disturbance?

Here's the racket a Morrisons truck makes at the site (the engine is off by the way) that we had for 2 hours on a warm summers evening earlier this week, close to homes. https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=JnARY03Q

I6Y Don't forget to turn up the volume so you can hear it drown out the traffic on the main road.

That is in addition to the unecesarily bright lighting which the planners have had to impost strict conditions on due to the excessive light that shines directly into adjoining homes.
Sue Morrison's AND the BDC that allowed this to occur. It IS an imposition upon YOUR rights and not at all acceptable for you and other local residents. Particularly when there are alternatives in the immediate vicinity.

This is one of those rare occasions when I find myself in agreement with the views of one Bhudeeka. That's not right ...
[quote][p][bold]b913d3df@opayq.com[/bold] wrote: Due to a loophole in the law Morrisons, the noise issue was not able to be considered by the local planners. Morrisons refused to discuss details of deliveries as it became apparent that refrigerated trucks would be used and due to limitations of the site (it will be difficult to manoeuvre a lorry in the car park when it is open) and they would have to deliver out of the opening hours which are 0600-2300 seven days a week, so we get little respite, even on Sundays. Not sure how it is selfish expecting a company to have some degree of consideration? Or should they be allowed to disturb people without any regard? I'd be interested in your views, and whether you'd be happy to live with this or why we should have to put with this entirely unnecessary and avoidable disturbance? Here's the racket a Morrisons truck makes at the site (the engine is off by the way) that we had for 2 hours on a warm summers evening earlier this week, close to homes. https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=JnARY03Q I6Y Don't forget to turn up the volume so you can hear it drown out the traffic on the main road. That is in addition to the unecesarily bright lighting which the planners have had to impost strict conditions on due to the excessive light that shines directly into adjoining homes.[/p][/quote]Sue Morrison's AND the BDC that allowed this to occur. It IS an imposition upon YOUR rights and not at all acceptable for you and other local residents. Particularly when there are alternatives in the immediate vicinity. This is one of those rare occasions when I find myself in agreement with the views of one Bhudeeka. That's not right ... /@|_|@\
  • Score: 1

8:43am Mon 30 Jun 14

The Stinker Returns says...

I'm afraid you don't have many "rights" when it comes to where you live. Councils can and do whatever they like so you might buy a house in a nice quiet area only for them to approve 240 houses to be built right behind you in what was a lovely quiet field. You end up living in a very noisy area which building work for 3 years and then a load of kids terrorising the neighbourhood. It happens everywhere. Feel lucky the refridgerators drown out the noise of the A12.
I'm afraid you don't have many "rights" when it comes to where you live. Councils can and do whatever they like so you might buy a house in a nice quiet area only for them to approve 240 houses to be built right behind you in what was a lovely quiet field. You end up living in a very noisy area which building work for 3 years and then a load of kids terrorising the neighbourhood. It happens everywhere. Feel lucky the refridgerators drown out the noise of the A12. The Stinker Returns
  • Score: -1

3:53pm Mon 30 Jun 14

keith_l says...

Morrisons could ease the problem if they wished. They could arrange for the delivery drivers to turn off the refrigeration units whilst delivering (or even before arriving). It won't get rid of the engines running on arrival or departure, or the annoying reversing beep, but would get rid of a constant drone whilst the lorry is being unloaded.
Morrisons could ease the problem if they wished. They could arrange for the delivery drivers to turn off the refrigeration units whilst delivering (or even before arriving). It won't get rid of the engines running on arrival or departure, or the annoying reversing beep, but would get rid of a constant drone whilst the lorry is being unloaded. keith_l
  • Score: 2

8:53pm Mon 30 Jun 14

/@|_|@\ says...

"If a nuisance interferes with another person's quiet or peaceful or pleasant use of his/her property, it may be the basis for a lawsuit for damages and/or an injunction ordering the person or entity causing the nuisance to desist (stop) or limit the activity (such as closing down an activity in the evening). "
"If a nuisance interferes with another person's quiet or peaceful or pleasant use of his/her property, it may be the basis for a lawsuit for damages and/or an injunction ordering the person or entity causing the nuisance to desist (stop) or limit the activity (such as closing down an activity in the evening). " /@|_|@\
  • Score: 0

8:36pm Mon 14 Jul 14

b913d3df@opayq.com says...

The Stinker Returns wrote:
I'm afraid you don't have many "rights" when it comes to where you live. Councils can and do whatever they like so you might buy a house in a nice quiet area only for them to approve 240 houses to be built right behind you in what was a lovely quiet field. You end up living in a very noisy area which building work for 3 years and then a load of kids terrorising the neighbourhood. It happens everywhere. Feel lucky the refridgerators drown out the noise of the A12.
The term Statutory Nuisance is a useful one here, as it deals with lighting and noise. We do have rights in law, very clear ones. Morrisons cannot do what they like, whatever they may think.

Building work is only during the day, so it is not a problem. We have had two lots already without major problems. As for A12 noise, it has gone as it blocked out by the new houses :o) So it is quiet most of the time, apart from Morrisons trucks twice a day usually outside of normal working hours and at weekends. It is not a pleasant noise, although some of the trucks sound like a bit of maintenance (replacing worn bearings perhaps) would help.

That's before we talk about safety issues around reversing trucks in a busy narrow car park with pedestrians close by, parking lorries on Maltings Lane creating serious road hazards for traffic having to negotiate the width restriction as well as the lorries, and cross flow traffic off Hatfield Road and trying to get into the car park. Let's hope no one gets hurt. Of course had they put the loading bay away from the neighbouring houses and away from the car park (there is a large area on the far side of the site) all of this could have been avoided.
[quote][p][bold]The Stinker Returns[/bold] wrote: I'm afraid you don't have many "rights" when it comes to where you live. Councils can and do whatever they like so you might buy a house in a nice quiet area only for them to approve 240 houses to be built right behind you in what was a lovely quiet field. You end up living in a very noisy area which building work for 3 years and then a load of kids terrorising the neighbourhood. It happens everywhere. Feel lucky the refridgerators drown out the noise of the A12.[/p][/quote]The term Statutory Nuisance is a useful one here, as it deals with lighting and noise. We do have rights in law, very clear ones. Morrisons cannot do what they like, whatever they may think. Building work is only during the day, so it is not a problem. We have had two lots already without major problems. As for A12 noise, it has gone as it blocked out by the new houses :o) So it is quiet most of the time, apart from Morrisons trucks twice a day usually outside of normal working hours and at weekends. It is not a pleasant noise, although some of the trucks sound like a bit of maintenance (replacing worn bearings perhaps) would help. That's before we talk about safety issues around reversing trucks in a busy narrow car park with pedestrians close by, parking lorries on Maltings Lane creating serious road hazards for traffic having to negotiate the width restriction as well as the lorries, and cross flow traffic off Hatfield Road and trying to get into the car park. Let's hope no one gets hurt. Of course had they put the loading bay away from the neighbouring houses and away from the car park (there is a large area on the far side of the site) all of this could have been avoided. b913d3df@opayq.com
  • Score: 0

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