Lorry driver questioned for careless driving following seven vehicle smash on A12

Braintree and Witham Times: Up to seven vehicles in A12 crash Up to seven vehicles in A12 crash

SEVEN vehicles have been involved in a crash on the A12.

Police were called to reports of a multi-vehicle crash at the Witham junction, London-bound around 7am, today, Wednesday June 25.

A spokesman said: "Up to seven vehicles have been involved and there have been reports of slight injury."

UPDATE:

Police say the crash involved a heavy goods vehicle and six other vehicles.

 One lane is being kept open at the scene of the collision but police investigations and recovery are continuing and drivers are advised to avoid the A12 between Colchester and Hatfield Peveral.

UPDATE 9:50AM

Traffic is still queuing back to junction 28 - the Weston Homes Community Stadium 

UPDATE: 11.30AM

Traffic is still queuing back to junction 25 at Marks Tey.

UPDATE 12.30pm

RODNEY Bass, Essex County Councillor responsible for highways and transportation, makes a plea to the Highways Agency and the Government for urgent measures on the A12, following the incident.

UPDATE 1.30PM

ESSEX Police say A lorry driver has been questioned by police on suspicion of careless driving.

 

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11:54am Wed 25 Jun 14

pierre-pierre says...

I hate tailgaters
I hate tailgaters pierre-pierre
  • Score: 8

1:18pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Rick Deckard says...

Oh for heaven's sake, not again!
I am truly glad that only minor injuries were suffered but is is only a matter of time before more serious injury or worse results from the sheer idiocy of a large proprtion of drivers on the A12 at that time of day.
What, for crying out loud, is the problem with keeping a safe distance between yourself and the car in front? Why is it necessary to tailgate at speed?? What causes drivers to forget that lane 2 is for overtaking and not the sole preserve of high speed loonies who seem to think that the laws of physics do not apply to them???
I see this day in and day out.
Restrict the speed limit and enforce the tailgating laws. Prosecute drivers involved in incidents caused by such driving and start banning them. That way, at least, we rid the A12 gene pool of some of these morons before they kill someone.
Rant over :)
Oh for heaven's sake, not again! I am truly glad that only minor injuries were suffered but is is only a matter of time before more serious injury or worse results from the sheer idiocy of a large proprtion of drivers on the A12 at that time of day. What, for crying out loud, is the problem with keeping a safe distance between yourself and the car in front? Why is it necessary to tailgate at speed?? What causes drivers to forget that lane 2 is for overtaking and not the sole preserve of high speed loonies who seem to think that the laws of physics do not apply to them??? I see this day in and day out. Restrict the speed limit and enforce the tailgating laws. Prosecute drivers involved in incidents caused by such driving and start banning them. That way, at least, we rid the A12 gene pool of some of these morons before they kill someone. Rant over :) Rick Deckard
  • Score: 49

1:41pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Route88 says...

Rick Deckard wrote:
Oh for heaven's sake, not again!
I am truly glad that only minor injuries were suffered but is is only a matter of time before more serious injury or worse results from the sheer idiocy of a large proprtion of drivers on the A12 at that time of day.
What, for crying out loud, is the problem with keeping a safe distance between yourself and the car in front? Why is it necessary to tailgate at speed?? What causes drivers to forget that lane 2 is for overtaking and not the sole preserve of high speed loonies who seem to think that the laws of physics do not apply to them???
I see this day in and day out.
Restrict the speed limit and enforce the tailgating laws. Prosecute drivers involved in incidents caused by such driving and start banning them. That way, at least, we rid the A12 gene pool of some of these morons before they kill someone.
Rant over :)
Well put. Some of the crashes are caused by drivers joining the A12 from slip roads at speed without using their rear view mirrors to calculate whether it is safe to do so. If you are being tailgated, it may not be safe to brake and it may not be possible to move into another lane because of heavy traffic on your right side. The A12 and M25 are nightmare roads which I tend to avoid.
[quote][p][bold]Rick Deckard[/bold] wrote: Oh for heaven's sake, not again! I am truly glad that only minor injuries were suffered but is is only a matter of time before more serious injury or worse results from the sheer idiocy of a large proprtion of drivers on the A12 at that time of day. What, for crying out loud, is the problem with keeping a safe distance between yourself and the car in front? Why is it necessary to tailgate at speed?? What causes drivers to forget that lane 2 is for overtaking and not the sole preserve of high speed loonies who seem to think that the laws of physics do not apply to them??? I see this day in and day out. Restrict the speed limit and enforce the tailgating laws. Prosecute drivers involved in incidents caused by such driving and start banning them. That way, at least, we rid the A12 gene pool of some of these morons before they kill someone. Rant over :)[/p][/quote]Well put. Some of the crashes are caused by drivers joining the A12 from slip roads at speed without using their rear view mirrors to calculate whether it is safe to do so. If you are being tailgated, it may not be safe to brake and it may not be possible to move into another lane because of heavy traffic on your right side. The A12 and M25 are nightmare roads which I tend to avoid. Route88
  • Score: 27

2:11pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Weazelbum says...

People seem to leave their brains at home when they travel on the A12. I'm continually harassed by idiots up my backside, I move out of their way only for them to do it to the next poor sod in front.
People seem to leave their brains at home when they travel on the A12. I'm continually harassed by idiots up my backside, I move out of their way only for them to do it to the next poor sod in front. Weazelbum
  • Score: 35

3:28pm Wed 25 Jun 14

What's The Story? says...

Just as dangerous are the people who join from a slip road WITHOUT speed (40mph or so) making it dangerous for those not only on the main carriageway but also following behind on the slip road. That's almost caused me an accident more than once.
Just as dangerous are the people who join from a slip road WITHOUT speed (40mph or so) making it dangerous for those not only on the main carriageway but also following behind on the slip road. That's almost caused me an accident more than once. What's The Story?
  • Score: 31

4:14pm Wed 25 Jun 14

donttellanyone says...

What's The Story? wrote:
Just as dangerous are the people who join from a slip road WITHOUT speed (40mph or so) making it dangerous for those not only on the main carriageway but also following behind on the slip road. That's almost caused me an accident more than once.
Agreed people already on the road have right away people on slip roads just go. I have a number of times where A car is right behind me and beside me so can't brake sharply or move over lanes and car pulls out in front of me. Also driving at 70mph and cars going past me like I was standstill. As much as I hate speed cameras it could be time to fit them from Kelvedon to Hatfield Peverell. That seems to be a hot spot.
[quote][p][bold]What's The Story?[/bold] wrote: Just as dangerous are the people who join from a slip road WITHOUT speed (40mph or so) making it dangerous for those not only on the main carriageway but also following behind on the slip road. That's almost caused me an accident more than once.[/p][/quote]Agreed people already on the road have right away people on slip roads just go. I have a number of times where A car is right behind me and beside me so can't brake sharply or move over lanes and car pulls out in front of me. Also driving at 70mph and cars going past me like I was standstill. As much as I hate speed cameras it could be time to fit them from Kelvedon to Hatfield Peverell. That seems to be a hot spot. donttellanyone
  • Score: 14

4:32pm Wed 25 Jun 14

romantic says...

The central problem is simply people driving too close to the car in front, and not looking ahead far enough. Problems at slip roads are a consequence of that. Obviously, the main focus has to be the immediate traffic around you, but it's also good to be aware of the traffic as far ahead as you can see, and also what's in the mirrors.

Statistically, dual carriageways are the safest places, but perhaps it is time to look at there being specific driving lessons and tests which centre around them, especially at busy times. There do seem to be almost daily accidents on the A12 at the moment. Not sure if it's just because the Gazette is reporting them more, or if there really are more than normal. I think most of them come down to tailgating and not being properly aware of what is around.
The central problem is simply people driving too close to the car in front, and not looking ahead far enough. Problems at slip roads are a consequence of that. Obviously, the main focus has to be the immediate traffic around you, but it's also good to be aware of the traffic as far ahead as you can see, and also what's in the mirrors. Statistically, dual carriageways are the safest places, but perhaps it is time to look at there being specific driving lessons and tests which centre around them, especially at busy times. There do seem to be almost daily accidents on the A12 at the moment. Not sure if it's just because the Gazette is reporting them more, or if there really are more than normal. I think most of them come down to tailgating and not being properly aware of what is around. romantic
  • Score: 17

4:59pm Wed 25 Jun 14

/@|_|@\ says...

I think that what you are seeing is more the result of the incredible increase in traffic over the past three decades. The A12 was never designed to be a motorway (limited access) yet it is treated as one while horribly congested. Frustration is a result of having to deal with this traffic daily and when a crash occurs the added exasperation only exacerbates the anger. What to do?

I believe that the whole concept of lane drill needs to be revised. It is impractical and dangerous to consider the outside lane only for overtaking -- as demonstrated daily by those that stay in it. To continually have to dodge from the inside lane to overtake and then dodge back in is inherently dangerous. It would be far better to shift the paradigm: get in a lane and stay there at a constant speed and a safe distance from the vehicle in front. The emphasis being on stay in that lane. When you need to get off, then move over accordingly.

Also (and I know this is going to cause ructions among the purists and traditional thinkers), but get used to people moving at different speeds on BOTH sides of you. Therefore if in the outside or middle lane, be prepared for someone to pass you on the inside. Before you scream bloody blue murder, although it was a wrench for me to adapt, I have seen this in-depth and it works. It works well -- and allows the road to be more fully used than it otherwise would be. I also will categorically state that it is not the cause of more crashes because drivers are taught to expect this behaviour. This might also enable a reduction in the maximum allowed speed and that too would help reduce crashes and their severity.

This could be utilised on certain roads and posted accordingly. Regardless, I do believe that something needs to be done and something new: the old ways no longer work.
I think that what you are seeing is more the result of the incredible increase in traffic over the past three decades. The A12 was never designed to be a motorway (limited access) yet it is treated as one while horribly congested. Frustration is a result of having to deal with this traffic daily and when a crash occurs the added exasperation only exacerbates the anger. What to do? I believe that the whole concept of lane drill needs to be revised. It is impractical and dangerous to consider the outside lane only for overtaking -- as demonstrated daily by those that stay in it. To continually have to dodge from the inside lane to overtake and then dodge back in is inherently dangerous. It would be far better to shift the paradigm: get in a lane and stay there at a constant speed and a safe distance from the vehicle in front. The emphasis being on stay in that lane. When you need to get off, then move over accordingly. Also (and I know this is going to cause ructions among the purists and traditional thinkers), but get used to people moving at different speeds on BOTH sides of you. Therefore if in the outside or middle lane, be prepared for someone to pass you on the inside. Before you scream bloody blue murder, although it was a wrench for me to adapt, I have seen this in-depth and it works. It works well -- and allows the road to be more fully used than it otherwise would be. I also will categorically state that it is not the cause of more crashes because drivers are taught to expect this behaviour. This might also enable a reduction in the maximum allowed speed and that too would help reduce crashes and their severity. This could be utilised on certain roads and posted accordingly. Regardless, I do believe that something needs to be done and something new: the old ways no longer work. /@|_|@\
  • Score: -2

5:40pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

The A13 London bound has a series of chevrons in both lanes of the carriage. The rule being to keep at least two chevrons between your vehicle and the one in front. Seems to reduce tail gaters.
The A13 London bound has a series of chevrons in both lanes of the carriage. The rule being to keep at least two chevrons between your vehicle and the one in front. Seems to reduce tail gaters. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 12

8:01pm Wed 25 Jun 14

longridgelady says...

I have used this road daily for commuting now for 14 years and every day I am flabbergasted by the stupidity of some of the drivers on this road. There is no fast lane but I see so many morons sitting in this lane with no regard for the road users behind them and I have to admit I often now just stay in the outer lane and bypass the idiots at a safe average speed( this often results in road rage) Hatfield Peveril is always a nightmare for no real reason except 3 lanes filtering into 2 which no one seems to anticipate. The warning ahead signs are far and few between and often not updated until your already stuck in traffic so of no use. Just because you indicate does not give you permission to cut in between other road users and make the distance in between dangerous! Lorries love to overtake on inclines too! The only answer is to widen it to 3 lanes and extending the slip roads. Police need to prosecute the tail gaters, inside & middle lane hoggers and let the drivers that do follow the highway code correctly get on with it!
I have used this road daily for commuting now for 14 years and every day I am flabbergasted by the stupidity of some of the drivers on this road. There is no fast lane but I see so many morons sitting in this lane with no regard for the road users behind them and I have to admit I often now just stay in the outer lane and bypass the idiots at a safe average speed( this often results in road rage) Hatfield Peveril is always a nightmare for no real reason except 3 lanes filtering into 2 which no one seems to anticipate. The warning ahead signs are far and few between and often not updated until your already stuck in traffic so of no use. Just because you indicate does not give you permission to cut in between other road users and make the distance in between dangerous! Lorries love to overtake on inclines too! The only answer is to widen it to 3 lanes and extending the slip roads. Police need to prosecute the tail gaters, inside & middle lane hoggers and let the drivers that do follow the highway code correctly get on with it! longridgelady
  • Score: 5

9:29pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Nom De Plume says...

55 MPH
Lorries Inside lane only no Overtaking allowed all the way down the A12.
Speed Cameras
More Speed Cameras
Even More Speed Cameras
55 MPH
By the way the idiot doing 100 MPH in the black Ford C Max at around 1715 hrs Outside lane, Well done mate, while both the lanes at junction 26 southbound were blocked to the hilt with cars.
55 MPH.
55 MPH Lorries Inside lane only no Overtaking allowed all the way down the A12. Speed Cameras More Speed Cameras Even More Speed Cameras 55 MPH By the way the idiot doing 100 MPH in the black Ford C Max at around 1715 hrs Outside lane, Well done mate, while both the lanes at junction 26 southbound were blocked to the hilt with cars. 55 MPH. Nom De Plume
  • Score: 7

9:38pm Wed 25 Jun 14

colchesterresident says...

For those of us who use this everyday at the same time will remember recently when they did the bridge repairs, there were speed restrictions and very rarely was there hold ups or accidents. Seems obvious to restrict the speed during certain times.
For those of us who use this everyday at the same time will remember recently when they did the bridge repairs, there were speed restrictions and very rarely was there hold ups or accidents. Seems obvious to restrict the speed during certain times. colchesterresident
  • Score: 10

12:26am Thu 26 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

MaryPoppins87 wrote:
Prob a druggie
Takes one.......
[quote][p][bold]MaryPoppins87[/bold] wrote: Prob a druggie[/p][/quote]Takes one....... Angry of Lexden
  • Score: -4

12:28am Thu 26 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

colchesterresident wrote:
For those of us who use this everyday at the same time will remember recently when they did the bridge repairs, there were speed restrictions and very rarely was there hold ups or accidents. Seems obvious to restrict the speed during certain times.
Agree - see my note above re chevrons. Elsewhere too, and they seem to work.
[quote][p][bold]colchesterresident[/bold] wrote: For those of us who use this everyday at the same time will remember recently when they did the bridge repairs, there were speed restrictions and very rarely was there hold ups or accidents. Seems obvious to restrict the speed during certain times.[/p][/quote]Agree - see my note above re chevrons. Elsewhere too, and they seem to work. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 1

12:43am Thu 26 Jun 14

Boris says...

What a rare outbreak of common sense on this thread!
Let's have speed cameras every 3 miles along the A12. Can't understand why donttellanyone hates them.
Also a lower speed limit, 55 mph., as recommended by Nom de Plume.
And chevrons to reduce tailgating, as reported by Angry on the A13.
What a rare outbreak of common sense on this thread! Let's have speed cameras every 3 miles along the A12. Can't understand why donttellanyone hates them. Also a lower speed limit, 55 mph., as recommended by Nom de Plume. And chevrons to reduce tailgating, as reported by Angry on the A13. Boris
  • Score: 4

7:05am Thu 26 Jun 14

MaryPoppins87 says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
MaryPoppins87 wrote:
Prob a druggie
Takes one.......
No it doesn't. I can see you're a prat, but that doesn't make me one. It's called observation
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaryPoppins87[/bold] wrote: Prob a druggie[/p][/quote]Takes one.......[/p][/quote]No it doesn't. I can see you're a prat, but that doesn't make me one. It's called observation MaryPoppins87
  • Score: 3

8:58am Thu 26 Jun 14

romantic says...

Maybe time for a speed limit, at least during the busy times, and also for the chevrons. In France, they put up signs on the dangerous roads saying "xxx people killed / seriously injured in the next 10 km in 2013". Apparently, they have some effect. Perhaps they would at least make people think a bit. We have to do something, because this road has become far busier, even in the past 10 years, and there are incidents almost daily.
Maybe time for a speed limit, at least during the busy times, and also for the chevrons. In France, they put up signs on the dangerous roads saying "xxx people killed / seriously injured in the next 10 km in 2013". Apparently, they have some effect. Perhaps they would at least make people think a bit. We have to do something, because this road has become far busier, even in the past 10 years, and there are incidents almost daily. romantic
  • Score: 0

9:39am Thu 26 Jun 14

LeQueen says...

Lorries overtaking each other causes the most horrendous congestion and leads to tailgating. Completely unworkable but restricting HGV's at peak times would reduce accidents.
Lorries overtaking each other causes the most horrendous congestion and leads to tailgating. Completely unworkable but restricting HGV's at peak times would reduce accidents. LeQueen
  • Score: 5

3:25pm Thu 26 Jun 14

/@|_|@\ says...

interestingly, stats released today indicate the lowest number of deaths from road traffic crashes since records began, 1926. 1700-ish. That's seems counter-intuitive from personal and anecdotal evidence.
interestingly, stats released today indicate the lowest number of deaths from road traffic crashes since records began, 1926. 1700-ish. That's seems counter-intuitive from personal and anecdotal evidence. /@|_|@\
  • Score: 2

1:20am Fri 11 Jul 14

emma176543 says...

There are several reasons why the A12 is becoming Britain's most deadly, first most users on it wouldn't know what the highway code was if it was thrown at them! Secondly there's no hard shoulder on most of it which means when someone has a problem they have nowhere to pull over safely and thirdly and most serious is lorry drivers! And mainly English ones believe it or not! Do not look in their mirrors before pulling out to over take if u think I'm wrong next time your on it watch! 40 tonnes of metal is a lethal weapon!! average speed cameras from Ipswich to m25 would soon sort it over night x oh and by the way there is no rule in resistance where any vehicle should give way to another joing from a slip road people seem to think that everyone should move out of the slow lane to let them join this is not so also it's against the law to cross a solid white line and or chevrons on slip roads!! Instant 3 points 80 quid fine for those little white van drivers who are to impatient to bloody wait! Rant over just please use common sense when in this road because there seems to be 3 deaths a week at the mo! Rather get there late then not at all x
There are several reasons why the A12 is becoming Britain's most deadly, first most users on it wouldn't know what the highway code was if it was thrown at them! Secondly there's no hard shoulder on most of it which means when someone has a problem they have nowhere to pull over safely and thirdly and most serious is lorry drivers! And mainly English ones believe it or not! Do not look in their mirrors before pulling out to over take if u think I'm wrong next time your on it watch! 40 tonnes of metal is a lethal weapon!! average speed cameras from Ipswich to m25 would soon sort it over night x oh and by the way there is no rule in resistance where any vehicle should give way to another joing from a slip road people seem to think that everyone should move out of the slow lane to let them join this is not so also it's against the law to cross a solid white line and or chevrons on slip roads!! Instant 3 points 80 quid fine for those little white van drivers who are to impatient to bloody wait! Rant over just please use common sense when in this road because there seems to be 3 deaths a week at the mo! Rather get there late then not at all x emma176543
  • Score: 1

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