A new vision for town as bus park redevelopment plans are redrawn

A new vision for town as bus park redevelopment plans are redrawn

A new vision for town as bus park redevelopment plans are redrawn

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A restaurant and leisure complex will transform the centre of Braintree as plans for development on the town's bus park are completely redrawn.

Henry Boot Developments and Braintree Council exchanged contracts on the project for the bus park, in Victoria Street, two years ago.

But original proposals for a 32,000 sq ft shopping centre and hotel have been shelved in favour of a development featuring restaurants, a gym, a GP surgery and a town square.

Lady Patricia Newton, cabinet member for planning and property, said: “The original ambition of taking on a development partner was to breathe new life into this area of the town centre and this is still very much the aim."

Full story, pictures and reaction in today's Braintree and Witham Times

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1:28pm Thu 3 Apr 14

pierre-pierre says...

and so we got kicked out of the community centre and hall for what?
and so we got kicked out of the community centre and hall for what? pierre-pierre
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1:29pm Thu 3 Apr 14

pierre-pierre says...

oh and where are the buses parking?, not clear from the rag article
oh and where are the buses parking?, not clear from the rag article pierre-pierre
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4:16pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Bert Hardy says...

What happens to the bus park?
How is a gym going to breathe life to the town centre?
What will be done with the chavs filling the spaces?
How many restaurants already cannot find enough customers?
A GP centre, to breathe life?
Where is the money coming from?
Where will the dozens of cars now using the car park go?

Another poorly thought out idea. Regenerate indeed, but sadly this will not do.
What happens to the bus park? How is a gym going to breathe life to the town centre? What will be done with the chavs filling the spaces? How many restaurants already cannot find enough customers? A GP centre, to breathe life? Where is the money coming from? Where will the dozens of cars now using the car park go? Another poorly thought out idea. Regenerate indeed, but sadly this will not do. Bert Hardy
  • Score: -1

8:45pm Thu 3 Apr 14

/@|_|@\ says...

Where I live, it is almost a mirror of Braintree (“You may take the boy out of Braintree, but you can’t take the Braintree out of the boy”): a small rural town, on the outskirts of a major conurbation, full of miserable old gits that do nothing constructive but moan and **** about non-locals moving in. It grew, like Braintree, over the past thirty years from 9 - 10,000 to about 40,000. Because it wasn't built on a roman road and previously existed for four thousand years, building new infrastructure is considerably easier here than Braintree. Nonetheless, the PITA (no, not the bread, stupid) gits that do nothing but spew vitriolic negativity have been dragged, kicking and screaming into the early twenty-first century.

We have new shopping areas – both strip like the B and Q area and malls like Freeport - outside the town centre area; we have a new, modest, hospital; we have tons of new houses and miles of new roads to accommodate the always-expanding traffic. And, we are in the process of demolishing the current, old, constricted town center wherein there is little to nothing with even the architectural merit of a pork pie. We are also (I say “we” because it is “our” town and “we” decide to be proactive in how it grows) in the process of building a completely new town centre, two miles from the present one. It comprises a boat-load of new accommodation (all flats but all with parking for each of projected two drivers per residence), multiple bars, restaurants and other sundry shops; an amphitheater on a small lake (or if you’d rather, a large pond) and a park.

So, instead of embracing the new, you and the rest of you, in typical English form, will berate and belittle, strike out in vicious jealousy and never, ever be happy. I prefer where I now live, where healthy envy is a motivation for us to achieve what others may already have done; to excel and to try to see the glass half full and that if we all try, everyone benefits. Including the “chavs” of whom you so uncharitably refer; to improve and, when faced with new ideas that contradict previously held dogma, that we change to accommodate what has been revealed to us. Bert – you’re a philistine and probably a luddite: most certainly you are a curmudgeon that doesn’t deserve what looks to me like a brilliant improvement in Braintree’s town centre whilst still keeping the Great and Little Squares, Swan Side and my most favourite little alleyway anywhere, Pig’s Head in the Pottage Pot Gant!
Where I live, it is almost a mirror of Braintree (“You may take the boy out of Braintree, but you can’t take the Braintree out of the boy”): a small rural town, on the outskirts of a major conurbation, full of miserable old gits that do nothing constructive but moan and **** about non-locals moving in. It grew, like Braintree, over the past thirty years from 9 - 10,000 to about 40,000. Because it wasn't built on a roman road and previously existed for four thousand years, building new infrastructure is considerably easier here than Braintree. Nonetheless, the PITA (no, not the bread, stupid) gits that do nothing but spew vitriolic negativity have been dragged, kicking and screaming into the early twenty-first century. We have new shopping areas – both strip like the B and Q area and malls like Freeport - outside the town centre area; we have a new, modest, hospital; we have tons of new houses and miles of new roads to accommodate the always-expanding traffic. And, we are in the process of demolishing the current, old, constricted town center wherein there is little to nothing with even the architectural merit of a pork pie. We are also (I say “we” because it is “our” town and “we” decide to be proactive in how it grows) in the process of building a completely new town centre, two miles from the present one. It comprises a boat-load of new accommodation (all flats but all with parking for each of projected two drivers per residence), multiple bars, restaurants and other sundry shops; an amphitheater on a small lake (or if you’d rather, a large pond) and a park. So, instead of embracing the new, you and the rest of you, in typical English form, will berate and belittle, strike out in vicious jealousy and never, ever be happy. I prefer where I now live, where healthy envy is a motivation for us to achieve what others may already have done; to excel and to try to see the glass half full and that if we all try, everyone benefits. Including the “chavs” of whom you so uncharitably refer; to improve and, when faced with new ideas that contradict previously held dogma, that we change to accommodate what has been revealed to us. Bert – you’re a philistine and probably a luddite: most certainly you are a curmudgeon that doesn’t deserve what looks to me like a brilliant improvement in Braintree’s town centre whilst still keeping the Great and Little Squares, Swan Side and my most favourite little alleyway anywhere, Pig’s Head in the Pottage Pot Gant! /@|_|@\
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8:07am Fri 4 Apr 14

Bert Hardy says...

/@|_|@\, Your comment is rather like your name, meaningless.
Noo-one objects to improvements, they do object to failed improvements. This idea is one of them. Many suggestions have arisen over this site, clearly this one is another dud.
Possibly you have no answers to the points I made, if you have lets here them, especially the parking of cars hundreds of which use the car park each day.
/@|_|@\, Your comment is rather like your name, meaningless. Noo-one objects to improvements, they do object to failed improvements. This idea is one of them. Many suggestions have arisen over this site, clearly this one is another dud. Possibly you have no answers to the points I made, if you have lets here them, especially the parking of cars hundreds of which use the car park each day. Bert Hardy
  • Score: 0

8:08am Fri 4 Apr 14

Bert Hardy says...

/@|_|@\, Your comment is rather like your name, meaningless.
Noo-one objects to improvements, they do object to failed improvements. This idea is one of them. Many suggestions have arisen over this site, clearly this one is another dud.
Possibly you have no answers to the points I made, if you have lets here them, especially the parking of cars hundreds of which use the car park each day.
Renovate and build but only if it will work. This will not.
/@|_|@\, Your comment is rather like your name, meaningless. Noo-one objects to improvements, they do object to failed improvements. This idea is one of them. Many suggestions have arisen over this site, clearly this one is another dud. Possibly you have no answers to the points I made, if you have lets here them, especially the parking of cars hundreds of which use the car park each day. Renovate and build but only if it will work. This will not. Bert Hardy
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Fri 4 Apr 14

/@|_|@\ says...

Never mind, Bert. You don't get it and you never will. I was remarking upon you and those like you that will always see the negative, never the positive and always reject change never embracing the new.

The bus park is gone. It should be relocated. It is redundant in the middle of a town centre.
A gym might be just the thing to encourage people to exercise and then maybe go to a restaurant or bar for refreshment. Many people in Braintree could do with some exercise: are you one of them Bert, me ol' mucker? Or are you one of the chavs that'll fill the place?
Do you enjoy the evenings Bert, or sit at home moaning to your dog about the terrible state of things? Or have you got a partner that stays with you? Maybe you could take him out for a drink and a meal in the new restaurants?
"Dozens of cars"? Seriously? That many, Bert. How'd you know - you actually counted that high? Remember Sandpit Lane when it was a sandpit? Then a car park? Familiar with George Yard multi story? Have gander in there and I think you'll see plenty of room for a dozen more cars.

And maybe the plan's not perfect but it's better than the last one and better than a dismal, under-used and all-but obsolete relic from the 1950s, Bert. Not much use for relics from the 50s, me. Know what I mean, Bert?

And speaking of meanings, what DOES 'Bert' mean? I think it is 'bright'.

But that hardly seems apropos in this context, does it?
Never mind, Bert. You don't get it and you never will. I was remarking upon you and those like you that will always see the negative, never the positive and always reject change never embracing the new. The bus park is gone. It should be relocated. It is redundant in the middle of a town centre. A gym might be just the thing to encourage people to exercise and then maybe go to a restaurant or bar for refreshment. Many people in Braintree could do with some exercise: are you one of them Bert, me ol' mucker? Or are you one of the chavs that'll fill the place? Do you enjoy the evenings Bert, or sit at home moaning to your dog about the terrible state of things? Or have you got a partner that stays with you? Maybe you could take him out for a drink and a meal in the new restaurants? "Dozens of cars"? Seriously? That many, Bert. How'd you know - you actually counted that high? Remember Sandpit Lane when it was a sandpit? Then a car park? Familiar with George Yard multi story? Have gander in there and I think you'll see plenty of room for a dozen more cars. And maybe the plan's not perfect but it's better than the last one and better than a dismal, under-used and all-but obsolete relic from the 1950s, Bert. Not much use for relics from the 50s, me. Know what I mean, Bert? And speaking of meanings, what DOES 'Bert' mean? I think it is 'bright'. But that hardly seems apropos in this context, does it? /@|_|@\
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7:21pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Bert Hardy says...

/@|_|@\ Touched a nerve have we?
No sensible answers but you do want to dump the bus park, just right for the folks that need it. maybe you are getting a backhander from all this, what's in it for you?
I'm off to reserve my space from the crowds flocking to the doctors, the gym and er, yet another half empty restaurant!
Of course they will have to come by bus, if there is one....
/@|_|@\ Touched a nerve have we? No sensible answers but you do want to dump the bus park, just right for the folks that need it. maybe you are getting a backhander from all this, what's in it for you? I'm off to reserve my space from the crowds flocking to the doctors, the gym and er, yet another half empty restaurant! Of course they will have to come by bus, if there is one.... Bert Hardy
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8:14pm Fri 4 Apr 14

/@|_|@\ says...

And there it is -- the classic use of the word "sensible". Inarguable because you try to assume the high road -- as do all the damned pols that talk down to you, Bert -- by setting up for failure the target of your comment. Whatever one says to counter immediately is negated because it fails the "sensible" test. I am therefore not a sensible chap and my opinion is therefore irrelevant. Funny how that works. Or, rather, doesn't.

I'll buy you a pint Bert from the backhander I get from BDC, shall I?

You asked what's in it for me? For me it'll be a new fresh part of a lovely little town centre that needs some vim and vigor to bring it back to life. Buses and under-used community halls don't do that. For me, it's time to move on.
And there it is -- the classic use of the word "sensible". Inarguable because you try to assume the high road -- as do all the damned pols that talk down to you, Bert -- by setting up for failure the target of your comment. Whatever one says to counter immediately is negated because it fails the "sensible" test. I am therefore not a sensible chap and my opinion is therefore irrelevant. Funny how that works. Or, rather, doesn't. I'll buy you a pint Bert from the backhander I get from BDC, shall I? You asked what's in it for me? For me it'll be a new fresh part of a lovely little town centre that needs some vim and vigor to bring it back to life. Buses and under-used community halls don't do that. For me, it's time to move on. /@|_|@\
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3:42pm Sun 6 Apr 14

coleva says...

/@|_|@\
From all your ranting I'm glad you don't live in Braintree. Just stick to your own town & keep your nose out of Braintree . The fact that people have a different view to you does not make you intelligent only a self centred idiopt who does not believe other people should have an opinion that differs.
/@|_|@\ From all your ranting I'm glad you don't live in Braintree. Just stick to your own town & keep your nose out of Braintree . The fact that people have a different view to you does not make you intelligent only a self centred idiopt who does not believe other people should have an opinion that differs. coleva
  • Score: -1

3:43pm Sun 6 Apr 14

coleva says...

/@|_|@\
From all your ranting I'm glad you don't live in Braintree. Just stick to your own town & keep your nose out of Braintree . The fact that people have a different view to you does not make you intelligent only a self centred idiot who does not believe other people should have an opinion that differs.
/@|_|@\ From all your ranting I'm glad you don't live in Braintree. Just stick to your own town & keep your nose out of Braintree . The fact that people have a different view to you does not make you intelligent only a self centred idiot who does not believe other people should have an opinion that differs. coleva
  • Score: -1

7:34pm Sun 6 Apr 14

pierre-pierre says...

just had a count up, Coggeshal Road, from Sainsbury Garage to White Hart corner
two full restraunts and
just had a count up, Coggeshal Road, from Sainsbury Garage to White Hart corner two full restraunts and pierre-pierre
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7:38pm Sun 6 Apr 14

pierre-pierre says...

decided that I wanted to enter before finished

just had a count up, Coggeshal Road, from Sainsbury Garage to White Hart corner
two full restaurants and at least six snack bars.

a short walk from NatWest bank and down Market Street towards town hall, at least ten eateries visible
decided that I wanted to enter before finished just had a count up, Coggeshal Road, from Sainsbury Garage to White Hart corner two full restaurants and at least six snack bars. a short walk from NatWest bank and down Market Street towards town hall, at least ten eateries visible pierre-pierre
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12:25pm Mon 7 Apr 14

OMPITA [Intl] says...

As a fellow Ex-Braintree Pat who empathises with some (not all!) of your sentiments /@|_|@\ I am sorry to see you on the receiving end of such abuse from the hoi polloi. Just to think that your mentor during your formative years (good old Dr Cordingly) probably told you that the Peasants’ Revolt was all over by the summer of 1381.

It just goes to show how you have to take everything you hear with a pinch of s**t. (Now what’s wrong with the word s.a.l.t for crissake? – I’m sure that’s what I meant to type in!) ).

I wonder how DC would counsel you today. Probably bang on about Matthew 7:6 and Luke 23:34 no doubt!

Anyway, every cloud has a silver lining. You will be heartened to learn that your contribution has truly inspired me if no one else.

You have an amphitheater in your neck of the woods eh? Just the job! Personally I prefer the English versions (like amphitheatres) but I’m sure they’re basically all the same. According to my everyday essential reading (Primary Homework Help Website) they are places where citizens watch slaves and criminals forced to fight wild animals, such as bears or lions. The bloodier the battle, the more the crowd love it. The fighters are selected from slaves or criminals whose punishment was to risk a most gruesome death.

Eureka! Therein is the answer to my problem. As you probably already guessed, the love of my life has been playing particularly hard to get of late. All my efforts to entice her with romantic tea dance sessions and bicycle excursions around the Essex countryside have so far fallen on stony ground.

I was busy plotting how I might win her over with a dodgy weekend in Sussex. Surely she couldn’t resist the Bognor Regis International Dance Ensemble could she? Just thinking how we might get tangled up amongst the ribbons at base of the Maypole leaves me all of a dither.

But then I saw your mention of the amphitheatre and there was this bloody great flash of light! I just know that she couldn’t resist an afternoon watching a bunch of local felons being made to face the jaws of death – and she has such a predilection for popcorn and wieners to boot – she’d be putty in my warm and sweaty hands! So, that’s it. I’m going over the old tandem with an oily rag once more and then I'll whisk her down to Felixstowe, hitch a lift on a cargo boat to the Big Apple and follow the sunset towards your place.

You won’t mind putting us up for a day or two will you?

Our blog will rate alongside those other great love stories you’ll see. Romeo and Juliet; Gone with the Wind; Howard and Marina; and now to cap them all ‘Ompi and Bhudee’.

BTW we need your address…………
……
As a fellow Ex-Braintree Pat who empathises with some (not all!) of your sentiments /@|_|@\ I am sorry to see you on the receiving end of such abuse from the hoi polloi. Just to think that your mentor during your formative years (good old Dr Cordingly) probably told you that the Peasants’ Revolt was all over by the summer of 1381. It just goes to show how you have to take everything you hear with a pinch of s**t. (Now what’s wrong with the word s.a.l.t for crissake? – I’m sure that’s what I meant to type in!) ). I wonder how DC would counsel you today. Probably bang on about Matthew 7:6 and Luke 23:34 no doubt! Anyway, every cloud has a silver lining. You will be heartened to learn that your contribution has truly inspired me if no one else. You have an amphitheater in your neck of the woods eh? Just the job! Personally I prefer the English versions (like amphitheatres) but I’m sure they’re basically all the same. According to my everyday essential reading (Primary Homework Help Website) they are places where citizens watch slaves and criminals forced to fight wild animals, such as bears or lions. The bloodier the battle, the more the crowd love it. The fighters are selected from slaves or criminals whose punishment was to risk a most gruesome death. Eureka! Therein is the answer to my problem. As you probably already guessed, the love of my life has been playing particularly hard to get of late. All my efforts to entice her with romantic tea dance sessions and bicycle excursions around the Essex countryside have so far fallen on stony ground. I was busy plotting how I might win her over with a dodgy weekend in Sussex. Surely she couldn’t resist the Bognor Regis International Dance Ensemble could she? Just thinking how we might get tangled up amongst the ribbons at base of the Maypole leaves me all of a dither. But then I saw your mention of the amphitheatre and there was this bloody great flash of light! I just know that she couldn’t resist an afternoon watching a bunch of local felons being made to face the jaws of death – and she has such a predilection for popcorn and wieners to boot – she’d be putty in my warm and sweaty hands! So, that’s it. I’m going over the old tandem with an oily rag once more and then I'll whisk her down to Felixstowe, hitch a lift on a cargo boat to the Big Apple and follow the sunset towards your place. You won’t mind putting us up for a day or two will you? Our blog will rate alongside those other great love stories you’ll see. Romeo and Juliet; Gone with the Wind; Howard and Marina; and now to cap them all ‘Ompi and Bhudee’. BTW we need your address………… …… OMPITA [Intl]
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2:15pm Mon 7 Apr 14

/@|_|@\ says...

Of course you'd need to bring your own gum boots, because as much as it smells, it's also very deep!

On the main topic -- and specifically to good ol' Bert -- I would quote the following which may (just may) be of some insight and interest:

“As such the plans are now focussing on bringing in a health and leisure aspect to the scheme, which will attract footfall into town centre, benefiting existing stores. The current number of car parking spaces on the site will be maintained and provision for buses will be designed into the proposals. The scheme also incorporates some restaurants which will improve the night time economy.

“This is something that both residents and businesses have said is missing from the town and is backed up by latest research."
Of course you'd need to bring your own gum boots, because as much as it smells, it's also very deep! On the main topic -- and specifically to good ol' Bert -- I would quote the following which may (just may) be of some insight and interest: “As such the plans are now focussing on bringing in a health and leisure aspect to the scheme, which will attract footfall into town centre, benefiting existing stores. The current number of car parking spaces on the site will be maintained and provision for buses will be designed into the proposals. The scheme also incorporates some restaurants which will improve the night time economy. “This is something that both residents and businesses have said is missing from the town and is backed up by latest research." /@|_|@\
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6:10pm Tue 8 Apr 14

pierre-pierre says...

and to answer those who dont live in Braintree.

the in town bus garage and a lot of the bus parking moved a long tome ago to a posh place down the Springwood industrial estate

the town centre garage is now housing and shops, most of the bus park is now car parks, and the only buses are there for a short time - at the bus stops
and to answer those who dont live in Braintree. the in town bus garage and a lot of the bus parking moved a long tome ago to a posh place down the Springwood industrial estate the town centre garage is now housing and shops, most of the bus park is now car parks, and the only buses are there for a short time - at the bus stops pierre-pierre
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9:16pm Tue 8 Apr 14

/@|_|@\ says...

Hmmm - Thanks, Pierre-Pierre. Perhaps, ol' Bert up there might take note since it was him that started moaning about the bus park etc.!

Still, the whole issue has been addressed by Mrs. Newton and I posted it earlier.

Cheers.
Hmmm - Thanks, Pierre-Pierre. Perhaps, ol' Bert up there might take note since it was him that started moaning about the bus park etc.! Still, the whole issue has been addressed by Mrs. Newton and I posted it earlier. Cheers. /@|_|@\
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11:08pm Tue 8 Apr 14

pierre-pierre says...

/@|_|@\

try the Bing aerial map, the google is not up to date

http://www.bing.com/
maps/default.aspx?q=
braintree+victoria+s
treet&mkt=en&FORM=HD
RSC4

zoom right in to the LH end of Victoria street, the Round building is the library, the car and bus stops next to it, the community centre was the large building the other side of the park

the community centre was shut under the previous plan and a new one given down Bocking end, but it doesnt have public transport to it, now the one that was being knocked down is let out to all and sundry

another nasty right next to that, a person was running a successful cafe in the old school, given a weeks notice to get out, now reopened with a different group of women
/@|_|@\ try the Bing aerial map, the google is not up to date http://www.bing.com/ maps/default.aspx?q= braintree+victoria+s treet&mkt=en&FORM=HD RSC4 zoom right in to the LH end of Victoria street, the Round building is the library, the car and bus stops next to it, the community centre was the large building the other side of the park the community centre was shut under the previous plan and a new one given down Bocking end, but it doesnt have public transport to it, now the one that was being knocked down is let out to all and sundry another nasty right next to that, a person was running a successful cafe in the old school, given a weeks notice to get out, now reopened with a different group of women pierre-pierre
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3:56pm Wed 9 Apr 14

/@|_|@\ says...

Thanks. I found it - right off the intersection of Pearl and Ivory Streets, up from the John W Mahar Highway, right? :-P Bing -- pah. It's a Microsoft product so I suppose I shouldn't expect less, right? So I looked up Victoria Street, Braintree, UK and, of course, Robert's yer father's bother: that showed the more appropriate Victoria Street. Thank you Pierre-Pierre.

However, Bing shows Braintree and Bocking Public Gardens around the back of Tesco on Market Street. Now there's an innovative move by BDC!

Oh. Right\. Sorry. It's still Microsoft, innit.
Thanks. I found it - right off the intersection of Pearl and Ivory Streets, up from the John W Mahar Highway, right? :-P Bing -- pah. It's a Microsoft product so I suppose I shouldn't expect less, right? So I looked up Victoria Street, Braintree, UK and, of course, Robert's yer father's bother: that showed the more appropriate Victoria Street. Thank you Pierre-Pierre. However, Bing shows Braintree and Bocking Public Gardens around the back of Tesco on Market Street. Now there's an innovative move by BDC! Oh. Right\. Sorry. It's still Microsoft, innit. /@|_|@\
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