Fury at disabled parking charge plan

Braintree and Witham Times: Fury at disabled parking charge plan Fury at disabled parking charge plan

FURIOUS disabled drivers have hit out at plans to charge blue badge holders to park.

Braintree Council is proposing to charge badge holders to use its car parks from October 1.

The authority said the main consideration for disabled motorists was not the cost of parking, but the availability of suitable spaces.

But a discussion group at the Tabor Centre in Braintree, a day centre for the disabled, raised several objections to the plans.

Read the full story in this week's Times

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1:12pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Bhudeeka says...

normally iw ould agree with the disabled but unless it is me it seems that there are more disabled spaces than abled these days
normally iw ould agree with the disabled but unless it is me it seems that there are more disabled spaces than abled these days Bhudeeka
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1:51pm Thu 6 Feb 14

The Stinker Returns says...

It seems that every other person has some sort of disability these days and, yes, Bhudeeka, I make you right. Any non-disabled person cannot park anywhere the entrance to anywhere these days. And why do people with children get preferential parking spaces too? Of course, disabled people should pay to park, just like anyone else does. Or perhaps parking should be a free for all in terms of spaces and cost.
It seems that every other person has some sort of disability these days and, yes, Bhudeeka, I make you right. Any non-disabled person cannot park anywhere the entrance to anywhere these days. And why do people with children get preferential parking spaces too? Of course, disabled people should pay to park, just like anyone else does. Or perhaps parking should be a free for all in terms of spaces and cost. The Stinker Returns
  • Score: -4

1:59pm Thu 6 Feb 14

keith_l says...

This is not uncommon. For example, most Basildon car parks take the same approach.

However, it is very short sighted. Disabled people with a disabled badge can (subject to meeting a couple of rules) park on yellow lines free of charge for up to three hours. Therefore, instead of parking in the car parks in disabled bays, they can legally park for free on the road and cause congestion.
This is not uncommon. For example, most Basildon car parks take the same approach. However, it is very short sighted. Disabled people with a disabled badge can (subject to meeting a couple of rules) park on yellow lines free of charge for up to three hours. Therefore, instead of parking in the car parks in disabled bays, they can legally park for free on the road and cause congestion. keith_l
  • Score: 2

2:04pm Thu 6 Feb 14

keith_l says...

TSR - people with children often need larger spaces, for example to be able to get the children out of their car seats, which needs the door to open fully. But I agree that there is no need for these to be near the store / pedestrian exit.

Bhudeeka - a lot of the reason why there need to be so many diabled spaces are able bodied people using them (parking with relative's blue badge) and taxi drivers using them to pick up fares (eg at Witham Tesco).
TSR - people with children often need larger spaces, for example to be able to get the children out of their car seats, which needs the door to open fully. But I agree that there is no need for these to be near the store / pedestrian exit. Bhudeeka - a lot of the reason why there need to be so many diabled spaces are able bodied people using them (parking with relative's blue badge) and taxi drivers using them to pick up fares (eg at Witham Tesco). keith_l
  • Score: 5

2:12pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Jack222 says...

Why cant they pay? Everyone else has to! They may be physically disabled but that does not mean they are financially disabled.

And there are far too many disabled spaces these days...
Why cant they pay? Everyone else has to! They may be physically disabled but that does not mean they are financially disabled. And there are far too many disabled spaces these days... Jack222
  • Score: -7

3:42pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Spirit13 says...

Please forgive me for not having an open opinion on this but I would like to make this comment. A few years ago I was a manager of an establishment where we had 4 disabled parking spaces. A Lady and her Husband very rudely had a go at me because abled bodied persons were parked in them. There was no way of course I could stand outside and police the situation and as it became a regular issue I suggested that the Lady concerned came into the building from a different door which was actually a lot closer to the part of the building where she wanted to be. She threatened to report me to the Disability Discrimination Board for not treating her the same as an abled bodied person. My comment to her was "I meant no offence and please forgive me if you misunderstood that I was treating you any different to an abled bodied person. Now to solve your issue and address your comments to me, there are 250 parking spaces out there in the car park, go and find one because I would hate to treat you any differently". I am a gentle soul and I meant no harm but I never had any more complaints from her. A couple of years ago I saw her in my Doctors where both her and her Husband were verbally attacking the poor Receptionist because she could not see over the top of the reception and didn't want to be treated differently by the Receptionist suggesting that she went to the lowered section of the desk that had been created for persons in a wheelchair.
I would not want the disability that some people have to carry but far more, I would not want the aggressive disposition that some of them demonstrate.
Please forgive me for not having an open opinion on this but I would like to make this comment. A few years ago I was a manager of an establishment where we had 4 disabled parking spaces. A Lady and her Husband very rudely had a go at me because abled bodied persons were parked in them. There was no way of course I could stand outside and police the situation and as it became a regular issue I suggested that the Lady concerned came into the building from a different door which was actually a lot closer to the part of the building where she wanted to be. She threatened to report me to the Disability Discrimination Board for not treating her the same as an abled bodied person. My comment to her was "I meant no offence and please forgive me if you misunderstood that I was treating you any different to an abled bodied person. Now to solve your issue and address your comments to me, there are 250 parking spaces out there in the car park, go and find one because I would hate to treat you any differently". I am a gentle soul and I meant no harm but I never had any more complaints from her. A couple of years ago I saw her in my Doctors where both her and her Husband were verbally attacking the poor Receptionist because she could not see over the top of the reception and didn't want to be treated differently by the Receptionist suggesting that she went to the lowered section of the desk that had been created for persons in a wheelchair. I would not want the disability that some people have to carry but far more, I would not want the aggressive disposition that some of them demonstrate. Spirit13
  • Score: 7

5:43pm Thu 6 Feb 14

GemmyGem88 says...

My Dad is disabled, he requires a wheelchair and I am his full time Carer. What concerns me about this, is A) My Dad has me but if you are physically disabled and don't have a carer, will the council be moving the pay and display machines closer to the bays? There is no purpose to a disabled bay closer to the area you want to get to if you struggle to walk across the car park to get to the machine to pay! B) Disabled badges are not free from Braintree Council, you pay £10 for one and that needs renewing every 3 years and then you pay again. £10 isn't copious no, but why pay for the badge and pay to park, when non-disabled people only pay to park? With a disabled badge, you are entitled to park on double yellow lines for up to 3 hours, so I can imagine the roads becoming much more congested with disabled drivers parked on double yellow lines if this does become the new plan… My Dad and I will pay to park if we need too, but the council should put more energy into preventing non-disabled people using the bays. So many times there are no available bays and more than half are not showing their badges, because they probably don’t have one!
My Dad is disabled, he requires a wheelchair and I am his full time Carer. What concerns me about this, is A) My Dad has me but if you are physically disabled and don't have a carer, will the council be moving the pay and display machines closer to the bays? There is no purpose to a disabled bay closer to the area you want to get to if you struggle to walk across the car park to get to the machine to pay! B) Disabled badges are not free from Braintree Council, you pay £10 for one and that needs renewing every 3 years and then you pay again. £10 isn't copious no, but why pay for the badge and pay to park, when non-disabled people only pay to park? With a disabled badge, you are entitled to park on double yellow lines for up to 3 hours, so I can imagine the roads becoming much more congested with disabled drivers parked on double yellow lines if this does become the new plan… My Dad and I will pay to park if we need too, but the council should put more energy into preventing non-disabled people using the bays. So many times there are no available bays and more than half are not showing their badges, because they probably don’t have one! GemmyGem88
  • Score: 37

5:46pm Thu 6 Feb 14

OMPITA [Intl] says...

Good comment by Spirit13.

Very well and very fairly put.
Good comment by Spirit13. Very well and very fairly put. OMPITA [Intl]
  • Score: 1

7:48pm Thu 6 Feb 14

OMPITA [Intl] says...

GemmyGem88 quite rightly highlights a real problem associated with non-entitled drivers abusing disabled parking spaces and suggests that the Council should put more energy into addressing the issue.

The council already has the services of the North Essex Parking Partnership at its disposal, so why can't they task the NEPP to unleash their 'Little Hitlers' on sorting out the selfish able bodied miscreants who deliberately encroach upon disabled parking bays. Lord knows their 'Officers' (puke!) already have the necessary track record with their 'tick- tock' mentality and lack of compassion needed for the task.

What a refreshing change it would be to see them gainfully employed for once doing something actually beneficial to society instead of slithering around - as they so often do - mercilessly extracting revenue from victims who have done nothing worse than to have momentarily made the slightest (and utterly harmless) technical transgression of the regulations.
GemmyGem88 quite rightly highlights a real problem associated with non-entitled drivers abusing disabled parking spaces and suggests that the Council should put more energy into addressing the issue. The council already has the services of the North Essex Parking Partnership at its disposal, so why can't they task the NEPP to unleash their 'Little Hitlers' on sorting out the selfish able bodied miscreants who deliberately encroach upon disabled parking bays. Lord knows their 'Officers' (puke!) already have the necessary track record with their 'tick- tock' mentality and lack of compassion needed for the task. What a refreshing change it would be to see them gainfully employed for once doing something actually beneficial to society instead of slithering around - as they so often do - mercilessly extracting revenue from victims who have done nothing worse than to have momentarily made the slightest (and utterly harmless) technical transgression of the regulations. OMPITA [Intl]
  • Score: 8

10:58pm Thu 6 Feb 14

BradSaintGeorge says...

GemmyGemm88 said:
"There is no purpose to a disabled bay closer to the area you want to get to if you struggle to walk across the car park to get to the machine to pay!"

That is such a good point! Allowing a disabled person to park closer to the door and then making them walk across the lot to pay and then back to their car... what's the point?

Here's an idea (I can't take the credit, my amazing gf thought of it): instead of charging disabled people to park, start ticketing the non disabled people who park in the disabled section. They would make a lot more money from them anyway!
GemmyGemm88 said: "There is no purpose to a disabled bay closer to the area you want to get to if you struggle to walk across the car park to get to the machine to pay!" That is such a good point! Allowing a disabled person to park closer to the door and then making them walk across the lot to pay and then back to their car... what's the point? Here's an idea (I can't take the credit, my amazing gf thought of it): instead of charging disabled people to park, start ticketing the non disabled people who park in the disabled section. They would make a lot more money from them anyway! BradSaintGeorge
  • Score: 7

5:43pm Fri 7 Feb 14

/@|_|@\ says...

Where I live there is a substantial fine for parking in a "handicapped" spot (some things take a little longer than others to permeate through the oft-found Neanderthal mentality here). And guess what - even an off-duty police officer will give you stick if you dare to abuse these spots. Secondly, the idiocy of the denizens of BDC even thinking to charge disabled motorists is yet another example if the small-minded and parochial thoughts of those in charge of a large modern town (the reasons are eloquently stated previously). Finally, I would suggest a very simple but effective way to ensure the legitimacy of someone using the spots: the blue badge should prominently display the driver's licence number imprinted in the badge. An officer of the law can then ascertain for certain, right there and then, the right of the driver to park in said spot.

Maybe Mr Abbott of the BDC and county council could forward that idea up the bureaucratic pipeline? Unlikely but still, a valid suggestion, if I say so myself. "Valid" because I see it working in practice on a daily basis and it costs nothing to implement -- once the s/w is updated.
Where I live there is a substantial fine for parking in a "handicapped" spot (some things take a little longer than others to permeate through the oft-found Neanderthal mentality here). And guess what - even an off-duty police officer will give you stick if you dare to abuse these spots. Secondly, the idiocy of the denizens of BDC even thinking to charge disabled motorists is yet another example if the small-minded and parochial thoughts of those in charge of a large modern town (the reasons are eloquently stated previously). Finally, I would suggest a very simple but effective way to ensure the legitimacy of someone using the spots: the blue badge should prominently display the driver's licence number imprinted in the badge. An officer of the law can then ascertain for certain, right there and then, the right of the driver to park in said spot. Maybe Mr Abbott of the BDC and county council could forward that idea up the bureaucratic pipeline? Unlikely but still, a valid suggestion, if I say so myself. "Valid" because I see it working in practice on a daily basis and it costs nothing to implement -- once the s/w is updated. /@|_|@\
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