Witham: Angry family call for action over speeding after cat is killed

Braintree and Witham Times: Witham: Angry family call for action over speeding after cat is killed Witham: Angry family call for action over speeding after cat is killed

A distraught family whose cat died after being hit by a car fear a schoolchild will be next unless something is done to tackle speeding drivers.

Dawn Holmes and daughter Taylor-Ann are calling for action after their young cat, ‘Meow’, died following a collision outside their home in Broadway, Silver End.

The family has also had a car damaged in the past, while they claim a friend in neighbouring Boars Tye Road lost four cats in six weeks and a neighbour ended up with a car in their front garden.

Taylor-Ann, 21, who bought the cat for her mum’s birthday, realised something was wrong when it didn’t return for its dinner at 4pm as usual.

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6:09pm Sun 8 Dec 13

pierre-pierre says...

one question!!!!!

how do they know it was a speeding car?

Cats run across roads even slow cars are deadly to a cat
one question!!!!! how do they know it was a speeding car? Cats run across roads even slow cars are deadly to a cat pierre-pierre

8:20pm Sun 8 Dec 13

OMPITA [Intl] says...

Sooner or later some person is going to be seriously hurt (or worse) due to a motorist, motorcyclist or whatever taking evading action to avoid a cat suddenly appearing within their immediate field of view.

What right do so called cat loving owners have to consistently let loose these feline pests - because that is precisely what they are on the roads - when the creatures have no cognitive awareness of the danger they present to themselves or human beings using the highway?

It's time that cats not constrained within the owners property were rounded up and humanely disposed of.

That would also solve a lot of other anti-social problems experienced by owners of gardens which are so revoltingly fouled by cats that adopt them for their personal toiletry purposes.
Sooner or later some person is going to be seriously hurt (or worse) due to a motorist, motorcyclist or whatever taking evading action to avoid a cat suddenly appearing within their immediate field of view. What right do so called cat loving owners have to consistently let loose these feline pests - because that is precisely what they are on the roads - when the creatures have no cognitive awareness of the danger they present to themselves or human beings using the highway? It's time that cats not constrained within the owners property were rounded up and humanely disposed of. That would also solve a lot of other anti-social problems experienced by owners of gardens which are so revoltingly fouled by cats that adopt them for their personal toiletry purposes. OMPITA [Intl]

11:29pm Sun 8 Dec 13

taylorholmes says...

You are sayin cats make collisions but arsk your self what if it was a child crosding the road when a car is doing 60 in a 30zone a child would end up ded or badly hert.

So dose that make Children crossing the road a peste aswell. ?? Or anything else ??

I understand cats get killed its not about that is about children.
the road im on kids walk to school or the shop as young as 6/7 with cars doing 60 do you fink thats is fair on that child and there family ??

Its like that advert on tv about a kid - if you are doing 30 I will probably survive if u are doing over 30 I will probably not survive.

Speed limits are put in place for a reason .
You are sayin cats make collisions but arsk your self what if it was a child crosding the road when a car is doing 60 in a 30zone a child would end up ded or badly hert. So dose that make Children crossing the road a peste aswell. ?? Or anything else ?? I understand cats get killed its not about that is about children. the road im on kids walk to school or the shop as young as 6/7 with cars doing 60 do you fink thats is fair on that child and there family ?? Its like that advert on tv about a kid - if you are doing 30 I will probably survive if u are doing over 30 I will probably not survive. Speed limits are put in place for a reason . taylorholmes

11:36pm Sun 8 Dec 13

taylorholmes says...

The damage to my cat was bad no way was is a car going slow with the amount of damage to him hes face was deformed and his eye was pushed back into his scull and all of his clows was worn down to the bone + we got a 2ed point of view by a vet . And I know my road rerry well
The damage to my cat was bad no way was is a car going slow with the amount of damage to him hes face was deformed and his eye was pushed back into his scull and all of his clows was worn down to the bone + we got a 2ed point of view by a vet . And I know my road rerry well taylorholmes

5:27am Mon 9 Dec 13

OMPITA [Intl] says...

The word ‘pest’ has a broad range of definitions.

In my response to the above article I used it in the context of ‘an annoying or troublesome person, animal, or thing’. Cats (and dogs, foxes, badgers, for that matter) that suddenly appear in the path of oncoming vehicles create a serious distraction hazard - with potentially serious consequences. Those unfortunate animals that come to grief on the road are therefore by definition ‘troublesome’. Try arguing against this hypothesis with the parents of a deceased child who has died as the direct result of such an occurrence.

Regarding the issue of whether children in a similar situation on the road can be regarded as ‘pests’ then I think the answer should be fairly evident to any reasonably compus mentis rationally thinking adult.

If children are let loose unaccompanied by a responsible mentor before they have been sufficiently inculcated with an awareness of Road Safety then I’m afraid that little Johnny who unexpectedly darts out from behind a parked car is indeed being a pest.

Clearly the reaction time available to the driver will be disproportional to the speed of his or her vehicle - hence the obvious fact that the faster it is travelling the greater the risk of not being able to avoid a collision. However no-one should fool themselves into thinking of a 30 mph speed limit as being a watershed below which nothing too serious will result.

The driver of a car being driven at 15 mph confronted by a child emerging from behind a parked vehicle just 3 metres in front is less than half a second from contact; whereas the driver of a car being driven at 60 mph suddenly confronted by a hazard 25 metres in front will actually be almost one second from contact.

Neither situation is likely to have a happy outcome and the point that I am making is that no-one should look upon a 30mph speed limit as some sort of panacea for ensuring that children, cats or whatever will come to no harm as long as vehicles are driven below that speed threshold.

Compliance with statutory speed limits will only go so far towards mitigating the risk of injury. The primary aim should always be the removal of the risk in the first instance. I.e. keep the moggies safely at home and ensure that vulnerable children are appropriately supervised by a competent person when in the vicinity of those very dangerous places known as roads!
The word ‘pest’ has a broad range of definitions. In my response to the above article I used it in the context of ‘an annoying or troublesome person, animal, or thing’. Cats (and dogs, foxes, badgers, for that matter) that suddenly appear in the path of oncoming vehicles create a serious distraction hazard - with potentially serious consequences. Those unfortunate animals that come to grief on the road are therefore by definition ‘troublesome’. Try arguing against this hypothesis with the parents of a deceased child who has died as the direct result of such an occurrence. Regarding the issue of whether children in a similar situation on the road can be regarded as ‘pests’ then I think the answer should be fairly evident to any reasonably compus mentis rationally thinking adult. If children are let loose unaccompanied by a responsible mentor before they have been sufficiently inculcated with an awareness of Road Safety then I’m afraid that little Johnny who unexpectedly darts out from behind a parked car is indeed being a pest. Clearly the reaction time available to the driver will be disproportional to the speed of his or her vehicle - hence the obvious fact that the faster it is travelling the greater the risk of not being able to avoid a collision. However no-one should fool themselves into thinking of a 30 mph speed limit as being a watershed below which nothing too serious will result. The driver of a car being driven at 15 mph confronted by a child emerging from behind a parked vehicle just 3 metres in front is less than half a second from contact; whereas the driver of a car being driven at 60 mph suddenly confronted by a hazard 25 metres in front will actually be almost one second from contact. Neither situation is likely to have a happy outcome and the point that I am making is that no-one should look upon a 30mph speed limit as some sort of panacea for ensuring that children, cats or whatever will come to no harm as long as vehicles are driven below that speed threshold. Compliance with statutory speed limits will only go so far towards mitigating the risk of injury. The primary aim should always be the removal of the risk in the first instance. I.e. keep the moggies safely at home and ensure that vulnerable children are appropriately supervised by a competent person when in the vicinity of those very dangerous places known as roads! OMPITA [Intl]

6:32am Mon 9 Dec 13

keith_l says...

Broadway in Silver End is not a road that it is possible to get up to 60 due to cars parked on both sides. Children of the age referred to should not be out unaccompanied, so the arguments above are pointless. The injuries described to the feline victim would easily be caused by an impact with two tons of car at 20 mph.
Broadway in Silver End is not a road that it is possible to get up to 60 due to cars parked on both sides. Children of the age referred to should not be out unaccompanied, so the arguments above are pointless. The injuries described to the feline victim would easily be caused by an impact with two tons of car at 20 mph. keith_l

8:00am Mon 9 Dec 13

OMPITA [Intl] says...

There was a news report in the BWT last October on a virtually identical situation in Wheatley Avenue, Braintree..

I hope 'keith_I' won't mind me repeating verbatim what he said at that time.

His remarks then are just as equally applicable to this story today:

He said "If anything, a cat is more likely to be hit by a slower vehicle as they are less likely to be frightened of it. Cats run out from under parked cars giving no time for drivers to see them, let alone react".
There was a news report in the BWT last October on a virtually identical situation in Wheatley Avenue, Braintree.. I hope 'keith_I' won't mind me repeating verbatim what he said at that time. His remarks then are just as equally applicable to this story today: He said "If anything, a cat is more likely to be hit by a slower vehicle as they are less likely to be frightened of it. Cats run out from under parked cars giving no time for drivers to see them, let alone react". OMPITA [Intl]

8:09am Mon 9 Dec 13

Bhudeeka says...

you people keep cats as "pets" therefore your pets should be kept inside at all times then the rest of us wouldn't suffer - drivers and road users and the rest of us with gardens!!
you people keep cats as "pets" therefore your pets should be kept inside at all times then the rest of us wouldn't suffer - drivers and road users and the rest of us with gardens!! Bhudeeka

8:11am Mon 9 Dec 13

Bhudeeka says...

I pressed send to soon also cats should be licensed and adhere to the same rules and laws as dogs no one would accept a dog messing in theire garden or running loose ont he streets so why do cats keep getting away with it or rather cat owners? all cats should be treated as dogs and any stray cats taken off the streets
I pressed send to soon also cats should be licensed and adhere to the same rules and laws as dogs no one would accept a dog messing in theire garden or running loose ont he streets so why do cats keep getting away with it or rather cat owners? all cats should be treated as dogs and any stray cats taken off the streets Bhudeeka

11:58am Mon 9 Dec 13

OMPITA [Intl] says...

Hey Bhudeeka, it's not often I agree with you, but on this issue I must confess to having some degree of empathy with your basic sentiments.

The problem is that cats are seen in an entirely different light by their owners as opposed to how they are viewed by motorists and long suffering gardeners.

Doting owners attribute all sorts of sentimental tosh to the supposed mental condition of the feline fiends, who I have no doubt simply see their owners as soft touch idiots who are always there (at 4.00pm on the dot Ha Ha!) with tasty dishes of highly expensive morsels of meat products of one obscure origin or another. They are however capricious creatures prone to suddenly and inexplicably swapping their allegiance if they find greener pastures a couple of doors up the street. So much for their loyalty then - if they find an even softer touch they will have no qualms about doing a midnight flit without so much as a passing purr.

However I digress. I think I have the answer to the current problem and a lucrative business proposition for you.

Many years ago I used to keep pigeons. A very kind gentleman in John English Avenue Braintree - his name was Mr Cliff (he had lovely daughter called Doreen) fixed me up with his failures which otherwise would have had their necks wrung! I doted on those birds just like the owners of their cats revere their little varmints - so I do have some understanding of how they feel.

Once, one of my beloved pigeons fell afoul of a local meat eating moggie. I was heartbroken and declared war on the wretched thing. My chance came very early one morning when clad in just my underpants I chased it all over the place and caught it. (A good job Doreen wasn’t about!)

What I did to that cat armed with nothing more than a large cardboard box, an elastic band and a three penny banger will never be divulged. Suffice to say however that the fertile imagination of an ‘orrible aggrieved twelve years old kid can cook up some fairly novel and medieval solutions when needs must. It certainly gave my pigeons a wide berth after that brief encounter!

What I didn’t realise at the time of course was that I was administering a form of aversion therapy - and it worked!

So, what say you and me set up a joint Business Enterprise? We could establish a sort of Feline Boot Camp where owners would pay us an enormously handsome sum to take in the likes of their Tiddles; Ginger; and Smoky. In return, (once we had them firmly in our grasp) we would show them pictures of roads and cars whilst simultaneously administering 6,000 volt shocks via crocodile clips affixed to certain features of their anatomies.

I think a three day course of treatment would probably do the trick although for the odd particularly recalcitrant hard bitten old Tom we could perhaps offer a five day special. They would never so much as even think of going near a road ever again.

We could then (once their fur had stopped smoking) deliver them back to their extremely grateful owners who would shake our hands and slap us on our backs for having instilled their little furry friends with a sound understanding of Road Safety.

Who knows, some of them might even want to book their kids in next time round.

How does that sound to you? OK? Great! I’ll be the brains behind this one, and you can be the financial backer. Just have twenty grand in used readies your handbag when we meet at the BWT ball and I’ll take it from there. Trust me Sweetheart this time next year we’ll be millionaires.
Hey Bhudeeka, it's not often I agree with you, but on this issue I must confess to having some degree of empathy with your basic sentiments. The problem is that cats are seen in an entirely different light by their owners as opposed to how they are viewed by motorists and long suffering gardeners. Doting owners attribute all sorts of sentimental tosh to the supposed mental condition of the feline fiends, who I have no doubt simply see their owners as soft touch idiots who are always there (at 4.00pm on the dot Ha Ha!) with tasty dishes of highly expensive morsels of meat products of one obscure origin or another. They are however capricious creatures prone to suddenly and inexplicably swapping their allegiance if they find greener pastures a couple of doors up the street. So much for their loyalty then - if they find an even softer touch they will have no qualms about doing a midnight flit without so much as a passing purr. However I digress. I think I have the answer to the current problem and a lucrative business proposition for you. Many years ago I used to keep pigeons. A very kind gentleman in John English Avenue Braintree - his name was Mr Cliff (he had lovely daughter called Doreen) fixed me up with his failures which otherwise would have had their necks wrung! I doted on those birds just like the owners of their cats revere their little varmints - so I do have some understanding of how they feel. Once, one of my beloved pigeons fell afoul of a local meat eating moggie. I was heartbroken and declared war on the wretched thing. My chance came very early one morning when clad in just my underpants I chased it all over the place and caught it. (A good job Doreen wasn’t about!) What I did to that cat armed with nothing more than a large cardboard box, an elastic band and a three penny banger will never be divulged. Suffice to say however that the fertile imagination of an ‘orrible aggrieved twelve years old kid can cook up some fairly novel and medieval solutions when needs must. It certainly gave my pigeons a wide berth after that brief encounter! What I didn’t realise at the time of course was that I was administering a form of aversion therapy - and it worked! So, what say you and me set up a joint Business Enterprise? We could establish a sort of Feline Boot Camp where owners would pay us an enormously handsome sum to take in the likes of their Tiddles; Ginger; and Smoky. In return, (once we had them firmly in our grasp) we would show them pictures of roads and cars whilst simultaneously administering 6,000 volt shocks via crocodile clips affixed to certain features of their anatomies. I think a three day course of treatment would probably do the trick although for the odd particularly recalcitrant hard bitten old Tom we could perhaps offer a five day special. They would never so much as even think of going near a road ever again. We could then (once their fur had stopped smoking) deliver them back to their extremely grateful owners who would shake our hands and slap us on our backs for having instilled their little furry friends with a sound understanding of Road Safety. Who knows, some of them might even want to book their kids in next time round. How does that sound to you? OK? Great! I’ll be the brains behind this one, and you can be the financial backer. Just have twenty grand in used readies your handbag when we meet at the BWT ball and I’ll take it from there. Trust me Sweetheart this time next year we’ll be millionaires. OMPITA [Intl]

2:36pm Mon 9 Dec 13

PumpkinSoup says...

I think your just being a inconsiderate **** hole.
Her cat has died which is obviously upsetting for them and there worried about a child being next? What is wrong with that? Cats might be a pest to a small majority of people like you, but think about how many people own cats who also drive? So why don't you leave this article and take your stupid un-needed sarcy comments with you.

I also think, by the way your going on that you need to get off the computer and get some help. Just a little heads up.

Thanks :')
I think your just being a inconsiderate **** hole. Her cat has died which is obviously upsetting for them and there worried about a child being next? What is wrong with that? Cats might be a pest to a small majority of people like you, but think about how many people own cats who also drive? So why don't you leave this article and take your stupid un-needed sarcy comments with you. I also think, by the way your going on that you need to get off the computer and get some help. Just a little heads up. Thanks :') PumpkinSoup

2:44pm Mon 9 Dec 13

PumpkinSoup says...

Also, remember the article is about people Speeding down this road, which they do in the evening and nights and Keith, you can speed down that road, It's a very wide road and when i am walking home people rush past me in there cars doing above 30mph, so yes something does need to be done, it's probably the 2nd busiest road in silver end. Kids on there bikes and scooters are constantly on the roads turning the corners and before anyone says they should ride on the path, it's actually illegal so Cars should be aware there are children on there bikes and scooters on roads, especially at that cross roads. also remember it is a small village, not a town.
Also, remember the article is about people Speeding down this road, which they do in the evening and nights and Keith, you can speed down that road, It's a very wide road and when i am walking home people rush past me in there cars doing above 30mph, so yes something does need to be done, it's probably the 2nd busiest road in silver end. Kids on there bikes and scooters are constantly on the roads turning the corners and before anyone says they should ride on the path, it's actually illegal so Cars should be aware there are children on there bikes and scooters on roads, especially at that cross roads. also remember it is a small village, not a town. PumpkinSoup

3:19pm Mon 9 Dec 13

strawberry1 says...

Have you actually seen the adverts on YouTube and guessing your age, in your college when they show you road safety?? When I was your age and shown the speeding videos, we had to guess the speed the car was going to hit the pedestrian! A 25mph looked like 60mph. So agree with all the above comments. And aswell, as a cat owner myself, when you live on or near a busy road you have to expect the worse!!!!!!
Have you actually seen the adverts on YouTube and guessing your age, in your college when they show you road safety?? When I was your age and shown the speeding videos, we had to guess the speed the car was going to hit the pedestrian! A 25mph looked like 60mph. So agree with all the above comments. And aswell, as a cat owner myself, when you live on or near a busy road you have to expect the worse!!!!!! strawberry1

4:32pm Mon 9 Dec 13

keith_l says...

Bikes should be on the road. They should also have lights, and not be ridden two abreast. Cyclists (and pedestrians) should look before pulling out from between parked cars, or at junctions.

Scooters, skateboards and roller skates, however, should be on the pavement, it is illegal to use them on the road.

With regard to the width of Broadway, and how busy it is, the main thing is how straight it is, but the parked cars turn it into a slalom. It might be possible at times to exceed 30mph, but 60 is a ridiculous assumption. The straight section from the roundabout to the sharp bend is not much more than a quarter of a mile long.

The longest section, between the junctions with Silver St and Runnacles St is less than 300 yards, and would take below 20 seconds at 30mph, so when you think cars are speeding, perhaps is is a matter of judgement?
Bikes should be on the road. They should also have lights, and not be ridden two abreast. Cyclists (and pedestrians) should look before pulling out from between parked cars, or at junctions. Scooters, skateboards and roller skates, however, should be on the pavement, it is illegal to use them on the road. With regard to the width of Broadway, and how busy it is, the main thing is how straight it is, but the parked cars turn it into a slalom. It might be possible at times to exceed 30mph, but 60 is a ridiculous assumption. The straight section from the roundabout to the sharp bend is not much more than a quarter of a mile long. The longest section, between the junctions with Silver St and Runnacles St is less than 300 yards, and would take below 20 seconds at 30mph, so when you think cars are speeding, perhaps is is a matter of judgement? keith_l

7:03pm Mon 9 Dec 13

pierre-pierre says...

as an ex (before I retired) vehicle test engineer, I think I can definitely say that very few cars could get anywhere near 60 mph on the Broadway Silver end, even if it had no parked cars
as an ex (before I retired) vehicle test engineer, I think I can definitely say that very few cars could get anywhere near 60 mph on the Broadway Silver end, even if it had no parked cars pierre-pierre

7:08pm Mon 9 Dec 13

pierre-pierre says...

for those who dont know, this is a link to Broadway, with its two roundabouts

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for those who dont know, this is a link to Broadway, with its two roundabouts https://maps.google. co.uk/maps?q=broadwa y,+silver+end&ll=51. 848027,0.621071&spn= 0.010339,0.027595&oe =utf-8&client=firefo x-a&hnear=Broadway,+ Silver+End,+Witham+C M8+3XW,+United+Kingd om&t=m&z=15 pierre-pierre

1:01pm Tue 10 Dec 13

OMPITA [Intl] says...

PumpkinSoup wrote:
I think your just being a inconsiderate **** hole.
Her cat has died which is obviously upsetting for them and there worried about a child being next? What is wrong with that? Cats might be a pest to a small majority of people like you, but think about how many people own cats who also drive? So why don't you leave this article and take your stupid un-needed sarcy comments with you.

I also think, by the way your going on that you need to get off the computer and get some help. Just a little heads up.

Thanks :')
It's awright for you PS but we ain't got nuffink to do between meals in ere all day an they doan ever let us out at all.

So I just as ter keep me ead down over keyboard all day coz if I look up an my cell mate Big Charly a seez me lookin his way he gives me a wacking great clump round me earhole nowattamean?.

not ter worry like coz I fink I might be out by chriszmass 2025 if I can manage ter keep me schnoz clean innit.

Maybe I can come to yor huouse that year fer some proper grub eh? I'll promise not ter bring me axe
[quote][p][bold]PumpkinSoup[/bold] wrote: I think your just being a inconsiderate **** hole. Her cat has died which is obviously upsetting for them and there worried about a child being next? What is wrong with that? Cats might be a pest to a small majority of people like you, but think about how many people own cats who also drive? So why don't you leave this article and take your stupid un-needed sarcy comments with you. I also think, by the way your going on that you need to get off the computer and get some help. Just a little heads up. Thanks :')[/p][/quote]It's awright for you PS but we ain't got nuffink to do between meals in ere all day an they doan ever let us out at all. So I just as ter keep me ead down over keyboard all day coz if I look up an my cell mate Big Charly a seez me lookin his way he gives me a wacking great clump round me earhole nowattamean?. not ter worry like coz I fink I might be out by chriszmass 2025 if I can manage ter keep me schnoz clean innit. Maybe I can come to yor huouse that year fer some proper grub eh? I'll promise not ter bring me axe OMPITA [Intl]

1:18pm Tue 10 Dec 13

mouseno1 says...

OMPITA are you Owen patterson in disguise? Your comments are taken ionugue in cheek but looking at Bhudeeka i have to say you must be one miserable person to live with, do you ever stop moaning!
OMPITA [Intl] are you Owen patterson in disguise? Your comments are taken ionugue in cheek but looking at Bhudeeka i have to say you must be one miserable person to live with, do you ever stop moaning! mouseno1

2:14pm Tue 10 Dec 13

OMPITA [Intl] says...

Ah Ha

The answer to both your questions is 'You'll never Know'

You'll read me here, you'll read me there; but you'll never see me anywhere!
Ah Ha [or perhaps Ha Ha] The answer to both your questions is 'You'll never Know' You'll read me here, you'll read me there; but you'll never see me anywhere! OMPITA [Intl]

7:01pm Tue 10 Dec 13

/@|_|@\ says...

Of course, one might use a little (what was it again? Ah, yup!) "common dog ...", and infer the plausible inaccuracy of that last phrase ... We one to visit the land of Zog.
Of course, one might use a little (what was it again? Ah, yup!) "common dog ...", and infer the plausible inaccuracy of that last phrase ... We one to visit the land of Zog. /@|_|@\

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